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ProverB
#41 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:51:22 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
@subaru - KenolKobil has announced a split of 1:10 which shareholders can approve on May 20 - expect this baby to rally!



i wonder what Warren Buffet enthusiasts think of this.

For hose trading please ignore this comment..

1:10 split???
This is just stupid. what benefit is there to the shareholder that his holding is exposed to such vagaries of price plays??? not gud at all.. Kenol itself is benefiting nothing here!! apart from maybe increased shareholder costs!!
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guru267
#42 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:02:57 AM
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@ProverB there is no problem with splitting the shares and the price will rally...

i mean Kenol Kobil must be expecting an explosion in their EPS probably from acquisitons and oil price recovery which will send the price soaring beyond anyones reach so splitting the shares makes them affordable to wangui and hence creates more demand for them thus you'll never see a P/E of less than 10 ever again on this counter after the split...
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mv_ufanisi
#43 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:05:39 AM
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@ ProverB - we now live in the "kadogo" economy. All the smart companies have realized this, if BlueBand is sold in 10 bob packs it sells more. So all KENOL is doing is making the stock affordable to more people. Current shareholders are not complaining and I'm sure the resolution will pass at the AGM.

The speculators are also likely to join in the parade, making for huge swings during which fortunes are made or lost at the NSE.
guru267
#44 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:13:38 AM
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safcom has finally reached my liquidation price... i'll definately be using the proceeds to fly into Kenol Kobil at these levels...

i just hope it can slow down a bit and let a sister get in...
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the deal
#45 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:53:34 AM
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rule 203: never chase a stock....
guru267
#46 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:07:00 PM
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the deal wrote:
rule 203: never chase a stock....


@the deal i know the rule all so well but there are some exceptions...

my major worry with this counter is that its relatively illiquid so it might take a long time for me to stock up everything i need and who knows where the price is headed....

and putting a market order on illiquid stocks is very dangerous especially with our confused brokers...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:38:22 PM
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@cnn - You have made a great decision...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
wanyina
#48 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:06:29 PM
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@WINSTON
which one is KPC ?or you mean KP&L
VituVingiSana
#49 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:18:38 PM
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IMHO... We are looking at 110/- for Kenol on Friday!

Then after 20 May (2 weeks away)... the shares will go even higher... If it hits 13 (post-split) is like 130/- leo...

I wish KK would print 1Q 2010 results... This wud be a boost to the price!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mv_ufanisi
#50 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:37:05 PM
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@VVS - You seem to be in all the right buses. It looks like your portfolio is headed to Joburg for the World Cup!
VituVingiSana
#51 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:56:04 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
@VVS - You seem to be in all the right buses. It looks like your portfolio is headed to Joburg for the World Cup!

I have 2 dogs in my portfolio but I am going to be getting rid of them as well...

I am now shifting my attention to Uganda...

My main 3 (as I have OPENLY stated) are:

KQ - I am waiting for 4 June 2010. I have a buy order at 55/- (not executed today).

KPLC - Do you see the rain? That means fuller dams, cheaper hydro, more 'affordability', more connections...

Williamson/Kapchorua - Tea! High prices... 70%+ production in 1Q 2010
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VituVingiSana
#52 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:56:52 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
@VVS - You seem to be in all the right buses. It looks like your portfolio is headed to Joburg for the World Cup!


KK is also part of the portfolio albeit a smaller portion... but I will take what I get!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#53 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:57:37 PM
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OFFICIAL - Kenol says SPLIT of 10:1 (not those confusing resolutions)... but the real deal...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#54 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:13:50 PM
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And now for the statement:

Over the last two days, KenolKobil has received media queries about the split of KenolKobil Limited shares.

As a public listed company and a responsible player that strictly abides by best corporate governance principles, we would like to set the records straight, and in so doing ensure that the public, who are the owners of the company alongside other international investors, are not guided by speculation.

KenolKobil would like to state that it intends to execute a share split, subject to approval by the Capital Markets Authority (CMA) and the Nairobi Stock Exchange (NSE), as well as approval by shareholders during the Annual General Meeting in May.

The intended split will be the second share split by KenolKobil, with the first executed in May 2004 when each ordinary share was split by 10, changing the par-value of each ordinary share from KShs.5.00 to KShs.0.50. KenolKobil was the first ever company in Kenya to execute a share split.

The intended split of the KenolKobil Limited share, among other actions the Board resolved to take, is expected to create better liquidity by attracting more investors, especially common Kenyans- East Africans and other investors who have hitherto been locked out by the limited number of shares available and the share price in the market. The Board expects it to create more vibrant trading activity.

By increasing the number of shares, a broader market will be able to access to the stock. The move will also create more liquidity in employees’ investment, through the Employee Share Ownership Plan (ESOP), and thus create more motivation and sense of belonging among the staff for the continued growth of the organization.

The Management expects the years ahead, to show strong growth in company performance and profitability, with positive indication already for the first 4 months of the year 2010.

KenolKobil will keep shareholders and the media updated on this and or any new development.

Jacob I. Segman

Chairman & Group Managing Director
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Horton
#55 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:27:48 PM
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That 2nd last line is quite interesting!

The Management expects the years ahead, to show strong growth in company performance and profitability, with positive indication already for the first 4 months of the year 2010.


sparkly
#56 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:59:07 PM
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the deal wrote:
rule 203: never chase a stock....

@the deal true that. I just had to dig this out of the archives, its not even 6 months old... http://www.wazua.co.ke/f....aspx?g=posts&t=5023
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VituVingiSana
#57 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2010 5:47:30 AM
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Sparkly - Good call...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#58 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2010 5:55:11 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Sparkly - Good call...

@vvs the best deal is the one that stares you in the face. Lol, if money was not a limitation when i posted that one...
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guru267
#59 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2010 6:45:36 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ - I am waiting for 4 June 2010. I have a buy order at 55/- (not executed today).
Williamson/Kapchorua - Tea! High prices... 70%+ production in 1Q 2010


@VVS IMHO i would advise you be careful with these counters because of the disaster taking place in Europe. i think it will send tea prices falling for the rest of the year if nothing is done to stop this and the problems in Eurpope could be disastrous for KQ's Hedging...

but if you really think that the NSE can stand the heat then by all means buy at this stage of the game...

have a look at this with market watchers projecting a much worse day today... Pray Pray

http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asia/

http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/

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Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#60 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2010 6:58:13 AM
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Tea is a basic beverage in UK (which is happy to stay out of Euro) our largest buyer...

As for KQ, the weaker Euro means fewer tourists BUT Germany & France are doing ok economically... UK, Germany & France are most important for Kenya...

We get hardly any tourists from Greece, Portugal & Spain... (or so I think)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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