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Law Capping interest rates
Mainat
#1571 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:07:22 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.

It makes me sad to read some of the things apparently educated people write. Ni kama kusoma ni kunywa maji..
Sehemu ndio nyumba
murchr
#1572 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:41:51 AM
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Mainat wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.

It makes me sad to read some of the things apparently educated people write. Ni kama kusoma ni kunywa maji..


It's going to be really tight in 2017, you're all better be prepaired
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kawi254
#1573 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:57:45 AM
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murchr wrote:
Mainat wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.

It makes me sad to read some of the things apparently educated people write. Ni kama kusoma ni kunywa maji..


It's going to be really tight in 2017, you're all better be prepaired


When Uhuru was signing the bill He did comment it will be reviewed after 2 years. Just after you have voted..Applause Applause Applause ...the rate limit cap will be lifted in 2018.
MaichBlack
#1574 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:24:35 PM
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Mainat wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.

It makes me sad to read some of the things apparently educated people write. Ni kama kusoma ni kunywa maji..

Ile masomo inasomwa siku hizi sio masomo. Most fellows just cram and/or take mwakenyas to the exam room.

Don't be surprised to meet a fellow with a sparkling degree and nothing between his ears!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Yowel
#1575 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:29:08 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
Yowel wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
Let me be counted among the pro rate cap hoi poloi. I still dont understand why rate cap is bad for business. The sooner banks get over their pity party , double down and get to work lending to those who deserve loans, the better it will be for all of us. No need having registered shylocks masquerading as banks. By June 2017, they will have seen the light and done away with their credit crunch games.

By the way, can someone explain to me slowly what interest rates have to do with weakening kenya shs against the dollar. What is the relationship.


First, refer to post #1522. Then ask questions.


@Yowel, kama huna jibu, dont expose your ignorance. Post #1522 does not answer my question. Let me give you another chance to answer the question. Go ahead, give it a shot, sio mtihani . . . nkt.


@tom_boy, kuwa mpole bwana.

Currency exchange rates are determined by a number of factors e.g. interest rates, current account on balance of payments, economic growth, relative inflation rate etc. Now looking at interest rates in isolation: if Kenyan interest rates rise, it shall become more attractive to save in Kes, thus a demand for the currency thus appreciation, but the KES is not a major currency and no one will dare do what ive explained considering the fragile nature of third world countries where savings could be wiped out in a flash.

Now, answering your question based on the current situation: most emerging economies have borrowed in USD, i.e. both governments (read Eurobond in kenya, Nigeria, Ghana etc) and even the private sector. When the US raise their interest rates, investments and funds shall start trickling back at the expense of other countries, demand for the dollar shall rise and the USD shall appreciate and other currencies shall depreciate (KES etc).

These shall be the effects:

1) investment shall be withdrawn by foreigners, a capital outflow which shall affect key investments both in the private sector and public sector.

2) repayment of debt shall be more expensive since the govt source of revenue is kes and repayment of debt is in usd, thus it shall take more kes to buy the same dollar. Thus the govt shall borrow more, still in Kes to meet the obligation, this shall cause interest rates to rise and the debt burden to increase even further. (For Kenya this is dangerous considering our budget deficit stands at 9.3% of GDP). For the government to protect the KES it needs to by either buy more dollars or raising interest rates higher crowding out funding for the private sector.

Yowel
#1576 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:32:18 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.


i concur. the economy humbles people, big and small.
kaka2za
#1577 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 2:09:34 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Yowel wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.


i concur. the economy humbles people, big and small.


Small people are already humbled.
Let's enjoy the small picture before the prophecy of the Wazua geniuses becomes reality.
For now,we, daft people are happy!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
obiero
#1578 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:31:15 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Yowel wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.


i concur. the economy humbles people, big and small.


Small people are already humbled.
Let's enjoy the small picture before the prophecy of the Wazua geniuses becomes reality.
For now,we, daft people are happy!

As a leading economic researcher in Africa.. I confirm and repeat, economically speaking the bill will make Kenya great again

mlennyma
#1579 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:38:36 PM
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Posts: 6,194
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obiero wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Yowel wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
@Mainat, the reality will only sink in when the economy takes his job

True. Typical Kenyan mentality.


i concur. the economy humbles people, big and small.


Small people are already humbled.
Let's enjoy the small picture before the prophecy of the Wazua geniuses becomes reality.
For now,we, daft people are happy!

As a leading economic researcher in Africa.. I confirm and repeat, economically speaking the bill will make Kenya great again

Yes trump,Iam buying banks next year when reality sinks.I expect a mean dividend on bank stocks this year
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
MaichBlack
#1580 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:45:36 PM
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Posts: 7,872
MaichBlack wrote:
maka wrote:
UK should just go home...go drink his liquor in peace...running a country is proving to be a hard task.

Running a country needs experience at different levels of Government. That is why Kibaki was best for Kenya and changed the fortunes of the country for the better.

Unfortunately we don't have such a person currently (in power or in waiting/opposition).

The US will also find this out soon. Electing someone who has never even been a kajora as their president!!


Welcome to Kenya - Shida tupu!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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