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¿ wrote:hamburglar wrote:Everybody should be allowed to seek what their heart desires without being castigated, ridiculed or even persecuted.
Nichukueni kwa floor.  Laugh Laugh Laugh This will be such a sport!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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hamburglar wrote:Muriel wrote:hamburglar wrote:Muriel wrote:¿ wrote:Why is there a sudden interest in silencing @Makali1? I am more interested in the silence of others over Islam. Nobody is silent over Islam. It is just as stupid a cult as christianity is. They have their allah guy that is just as vindictive and idiotic as the christian god is. We are debating with a christian (makali or something) right now. The moment alphdoti checks in, i will be here to rubbish his islam and akina sijui mohammed and 72 virgins. It takes a lot to shut me up. Just let some muslim guy come here with his crap and i will be here to prove him wrong. For now, am concentrating on this misguided guy makali and his brother mukiri. That's it? Sister Guru and brother Alphdoti have been around here longer than Makali. They check in regularly and post with all the colours like the gay rainbow. How the new Makali and the occassional Mukiri now hog your concentration is very illogical and hard to grasp. Yeah. I don't care who has been here longer than who, i don't follow such crap. I reply to whoever i feel i need to reply to. So even if somebody has been here since 1434, i don't have time to go around digging up what they have said so i can answer them based on their seniority or whatever your basing your argument on. Everyone is fair game, those who signed up today and those who signed up when Moi was still a teenager. Who gives a shit who has been here longer than who? Leave alone the digging to those who have time. Yours is to respond.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/13/2015 Posts: 73
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I believe the time is here when "he who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy."
But remember, "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done."
Revelations 22:11-12.
@masukuma. I also need to address your earlier premise regarding the increase in knowledge today. I have given it deep thought.
You say: "Knowledge has increased today more than yesterday. the fact that we live in an interconnected world does not mean... THIS IS THE FARTHEST IT CAN GO!"
Really? Have we reached the pinnacle of knowledge? No. However, every earth shattering discovery has already been made. The rest are modifications to this knowledge.
Which discoveries are these, you ask?
I believe the 1950s-60s were the greatest decades that this earth has witnessed. In the US, those people who made these discoveries belong in a generation known as the "greatest generation."
- The discovery of DNA
- The Hydrogen bomb
- Einstein's theory of relativity
Why is this important? Well, whatever happens in the physical realm parallels the spiritual realm?
- The Watson Crick DNA structure model and the subsequent knowledge on how genes are the building blocks of proteins, essentially cracked the mystery of life. The discovery that the life of a cell is in its nucleus, the fact that we now know what the hereditary part of a cell is (ie. the DNA). We know that cancer is caused by a mutation in the DNA. That was discovered too, around this time.
- On a spiritual level, the mystery of God was also demystified. Revelation 10:7. "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets." The mystery of God is His plan of redemption for lost mankind. The ones who were in His DNA, a part of Him, His children. The greatest evangelical revival movement started around the same time as the DNA mystery was being solved by Watson & Crick. In the same vein, we're witnessing a spiritual cancer in the churches, caused by a mutation (a deviation from God's original plan) propagated by the evil one. It is an abomination that a Church that professes Jesus Christ as their Savior can allow gay marriage. A union that is dead by nature, since it cannot reproduce.
The sexual revolution that also started at the time set in motion the destruction of the NUCLEAR family, and ushered in the gay pride movement of today.
Let me stop here for now. The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think  You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! 
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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masukuma wrote:Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! You accuse Makali of cherrypicking issues, when you mix them all up?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Speaking of Dwight L. Moody, he states, as recorded in 'Weighed and Wanting' pp 11, that: 'Men may cavil as much as they like about other parts of the bible, but I have never met an honest man that found fault with the ten commandments. Infidels may mock the lawgiver and reject Him who has delivered us from the curse of the law but they can't help admitting that the commandements are right.' I note that because here in post #35 Hamburglar mwenyewe states he does not commit adultery because it is "wrong" and "hurtful". He further adds that he has "morals".Just an observation I have made. Feel free to draw your own conclusions as I have drawn mine which shall be private - for now. Sport.
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Muriel wrote:masukuma wrote:Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! You accuse Makali of cherrypicking issues, when you mix them all up? What did masukuma mix up, or is elementary English difficult for you to comprehend? Stick to the topic and stop trying to divagate from the ass-kicking that's being handed to you by writing ambigous posts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. When people like you sense defeat, they usually start posting nonsense to try and distract from what is actually being debated. Go back and read the post, it's crystal clear, maybe you are the one that's mixed up. If you don't have an answer, you don't have to post something just for the sake of posting, sometimes it's ok to take a back seat and just follow proceedings.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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hamburglar wrote:Muriel wrote:masukuma wrote:Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! You accuse Makali of cherrypicking issues, when you mix them all up? What did masukuma mix up, or is elementary English difficult for you to comprehend? Stick to the topic and stop trying to divagate from the ass-kicking that's being handed to you by writing ambigous posts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. When people like you sense defeat, they usually start posting nonsense to try and distract from what is actually being debated. Go back and read the post, it's crystal clear, maybe you are the one that's mixed up. If you don't have an answer, you don't have to post something just for the sake of posting, sometimes it's ok to take a back seat and just follow proceedings. It is indeed true what you said that "I don't have time to go around digging up what they have said so i can answer them based on their seniority or whatever your basing your argument on". So I will let this one by, for humours sake.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:masukuma wrote:Makali1 wrote:The point was hopefully to demonstrate that we're living in the afterglow of the former decades. We're living on borrowed time.
no you have not... you just cherrypicked stuff and threw it together to support your conclusion. Was the evangelical revival in the bible belt a factor of DNA or of society pushing back to the flower power sexual revolution? And again.... why do we always get deluded that World == USA? Why don't you say the greatest evangelical movement was during the times of John Wesley or Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody or even the Puritan movement in the US? Why is the DNA not at the time of colonialism and the spread of christianity to the rest of the world and thus setting up and making "the rest of the world" the core pillar of Christianity? do you know why you didn't think of those periods? it's because this is how you think You are cherrypicking to support your viewpoint... or worse someone else who believes the world is the US cherrypicked the same and drew that conclusion... Buda...be careful about cherrypicking stuff to form conclusions... you may end up deluding yourself and there is no worse fate than to be self deluded! i smell something fishy... ah! it's a herring... red in color! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Robots will conquer world, keep us as pets – WozniakQuote:Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, who used to be gloomy about a distant future dominated by artificial intelligence, now believes it would be good for humanity in the long run. Super smart robots would keep us as pets, he believes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:Robots will conquer world, keep us as pets – WozniakQuote:Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, who used to be gloomy about a distant future dominated by artificial intelligence, now believes it would be good for humanity in the long run. Super smart robots would keep us as pets, he believes. Strong AI is definitely a concern and is a matter of "when" as opposed of "if"... THE VERY FACT THAT THE BRIGHTEST BRAINS ON THE PLANET ARE THINKING AND DEBATING IT - GIVES ME LOT'S OF REASSURANCES. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Google’s artificial-intelligence bot says the purpose of living is 'to live forever'Quote:
Human: What is immoral?
Machine: The fact that you have a child.
Artificial Intelligence Machine Gets Testy With Its ProgrammerQuote:
Human: Tell me the definition of morality.
Machine: I don’t have ethics.
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Human: Give me some examples of moral actions…
Machine: I’m not a moralist.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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masukuma wrote:¿ wrote:Robots will conquer world, keep us as pets – WozniakQuote:Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, who used to be gloomy about a distant future dominated by artificial intelligence, now believes it would be good for humanity in the long run. Super smart robots would keep us as pets, he believes. Strong AI is definitely a concern and is a matter of "when" as opposed of "if"... THE VERY FACT THAT THE BRIGHTEST BRAINS ON THE PLANET ARE THINKING AND DEBATING IT - GIVES ME LOT'S OF REASSURANCES. what are your concerns and what are the assurances you have been given about them?
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