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Best Money Market fund in Kenya
AndyC
#161 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 9:49:55 AM
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Kili wrote:
I have seen an alarmist post that mentions Nakumatt,Dubai Bank,Chase,Family,Ecobank,Sanlam.Is all well at Sanlam?

Ngai!
TheGeek
#162 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 11:09:18 AM
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Kili wrote:
I have seen an alarmist post that mentions Nakumatt,Dubai Bank,Chase,Family,Ecobank,Sanlam.Is all well at Sanlam?



Link ?
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Kili
#163 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 6:55:58 PM
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murchr
#164 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 8:10:09 PM
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Kili wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MutetiNick/status/791713979966038017?p=v


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#165 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 8:13:49 PM
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murchr wrote:
Kili wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MutetiNick/status/791713979966038017?p=v



Thought some already happened?
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PeterReborn
#166 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:42:19 AM
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Things are very thickPray Pray
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Chaka
#167 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:06:12 AM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Things are very thickPray Pray

Rink?
heri
#168 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:13:14 AM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Things are very thickPray Pray


what ia happening at Sanlam?
Impunity
#169 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:24:07 AM
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heri wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Things are very thickPray Pray


what ia happening at Sanlam?


WHAT DO YOU MEAN Sanlam?

d'oh!
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Angelica _ann
#170 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:27:49 AM
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Impunity wrote:
heri wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Things are very thickPray Pray


what ia happening at Sanlam?


WHAT DO YOU MEAN Sanlam?

d'oh!

Soon and very soon the only safe bet will be GoK T/Bills and T/Bonds smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Impunity
#171 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:33:16 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
heri wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Things are very thickPray Pray


what ia happening at Sanlam?


WHAT DO YOU MEAN Sanlam?

d'oh!

Soon and very soon the only safe bet will be GoK T/Bills and T/Bonds smile smile smile


WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU PEOPLE?

Sad Sad Sad
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nashx
#172 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:39:10 AM
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Yeah please tell us....or is just coz their rates have gone down
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Impunity
#173 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:42:09 AM
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nashx wrote:
Yeah please tell us....or is just coz their rates have gone down


And they dont keep the money in their account...their custodian bank was StanChart, last time I called to check.
So what could be the risk here?



Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

nashx
#174 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:26:38 PM
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Impunity wrote:
nashx wrote:
Yeah please tell us....or is just coz their rates have gone down


And they dont keep the money in their account...their custodian bank was StanChart, last time I called to check.
So what could be the risk here?


Yeah that's what I'm wondering too

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Impunity
#175 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57:14 PM
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nashx wrote:
Impunity wrote:
nashx wrote:
Yeah please tell us....or is just coz their rates have gone down


And they dont keep the money in their account...their custodian bank was StanChart, last time I called to check.
So what could be the risk here?



Yeah that's what I'm wondering too


Dem hafi run wey!
Sad
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Kausha
#176 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:02:50 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kili wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MutetiNick/status/791713979966038017?p=v



Thought some already happened?


Comparing Sanlam with the rest of the companies as the tweet is doing up here is incorrect, Life insurance suffers downturns in capital market movements which is typical of Life insurance in Kenya because of the restrictions on investments by the regulator. Unfortunately they don't have a big Short term insurance business as yet to offset that weakness which was prevalent in Jubilee, Britam and Liberty Life. The end year will be worse for those Life Insurance companies that have Banking stocks.

Money market funds have no relation to the rest of the company results under the CIS act. Banks are lending at 14% meaning they are unlikely to give anything above 12%. Throw in the management fee and any money market doing between 10-11% is returning good value. Sanlam is also part of a very large group that is very liquid.
Impunity
#177 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:34:53 PM
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Kausha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kili wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MutetiNick/status/791713979966038017?p=v



Thought some already happened?


Comparing Sanlam with the rest of the companies as the tweet is doing up here is incorrect, Life insurance suffers downturns in capital market movements which is typical of Life insurance in Kenya because of the restrictions on investments by the regulator. Unfortunately they don't have a big Short term insurance business as yet to offset that weakness which was prevalent in Jubilee, Britam and Liberty Life. The end year will be worse for those Life Insurance companies that have Banking stocks.

Money market funds have no relation to the rest of the company results under the CIS act. Banks are lending at 14% meaning they are unlikely to give anything above 12%. Throw in the management fee and any money market doing between 10-11% is returning good value. Sanlam is also part of a very large group that is very liquid.


S'il vous plaît, merci.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ebenyo
#178 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:50:15 PM
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Chaka wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Which is the best money market fund in Kenya? Anyone with experience with either cic,britam or old mutual?


I have experience with cic and old mutual
and judging from the daily yields as given in the daily papers old mutual would come in last..I would vouch for cic..


Customer care of CIC is wanting.
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Angelica _ann
#179 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:55:56 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Kausha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kili wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MutetiNick/status/791713979966038017?p=v



Thought some already happened?


Comparing Sanlam with the rest of the companies as the tweet is doing up here is incorrect, Life insurance suffers downturns in capital market movements which is typical of Life insurance in Kenya because of the restrictions on investments by the regulator. Unfortunately they don't have a big Short term insurance business as yet to offset that weakness which was prevalent in Jubilee, Britam and Liberty Life. The end year will be worse for those Life Insurance companies that have Banking stocks.

Money market funds have no relation to the rest of the company results under the CIS act. Banks are lending at 14% meaning they are unlikely to give anything above 12%. Throw in the management fee and any money market doing between 10-11% is returning good value. Sanlam is also part of a very large group that is very liquid.


S'il vous plaît, merci.

You will be left holding monkeys as the subsidiary fold yet the mother is good and going strong!!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Chaka
#180 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:14:27 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Chaka wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Which is the best money market fund in Kenya? Anyone with experience with either cic,britam or old mutual?


I have experience with cic and old mutual
and judging from the daily yields as given in the daily papers old mutual would come in last..I would vouch for cic..


Customer care of CIC is wanting.

I agree with the above sentiment..
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