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obiero
#701 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2016 3:01:24 PM
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obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@Obiero
Are you defending your kengen rights?

No. I am sitting it out and shall purchase postrights. I am relatively certain of lower prices in near future

Like KQ? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


He he. Laughing out loudly

hahaha

Slow but sure

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#702 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 10:04:03 AM
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KQ sell sell sell smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#703 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 10:16:42 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
KQ sell sell sell smile

Up 8% KES 6.20 has printed

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#704 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:35:27 AM
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stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ebenyo
#705 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:16:45 AM
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obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme

mbona KQ hakuna kwa hii list?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
sparkly
#706 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:02:15 AM
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obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ebenyo
#707 Posted : Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:23:23 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Mkondoa Macho
#708 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 5:06:00 PM
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obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme

Why HFCK?
obiero
#709 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 5:45:44 PM
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme

Why HFCK?

Strained liquidity

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#710 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 5:47:45 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan.
- I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned.
- I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-]
- I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others.
- Moat. It has a moat.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#711 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 5:49:17 PM
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@VVS
Wapee wapee eeh vidonge vyao,wakimeza wakitema ni shauri yao
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Mkondoa Macho
#712 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 6:13:19 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2016
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obiero wrote:
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme

Why HFCK?

Strained liquidity

Please explain...I am not that good in accounting
Ebenyo
#713 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 6:20:13 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,997
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan.
- I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned.
- I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-]
- I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others.
- Moat. It has a moat.


i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#714 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 7:01:36 PM
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@Ebenyo
Waiting for kenya re at 17 is like waiting for safaricom to reach 12.
Just accept the reality and adjust your price upwards
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ebenyo
#715 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 7:19:15 PM
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Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
@Ebenyo
Waiting for kenya re at 17 is like waiting for safaricom to reach 12.
Just accept the reality and adjust your price upwards


@Ericsson,You are right.My average buying price for kenre now is 21.21.I will try to work it down.But for safaricom,its tough.I will have to adjust it up.The current price is 21 vs my abp of 16.60.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
VituVingiSana
#716 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:10:55 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
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Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan.
- I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned.
- I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-]
- I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others.
- Moat. It has a moat.


i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by.


Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share.

Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting.

Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake.

In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016.

I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but...

I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy.

KK
Unga
KenRe
I&M
Williamson/Kapchorua

Some TPSEA
Some C&G
Some Equity
Some FTHG

No KQ
No Mumias
No Merali
No Nyammo

Do I sleep at night? Yes.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mainat
#717 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:55:09 AM
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Posts: 1,590
A little Wamae?

VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan.
- I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned.
- I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-]
- I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others.
- Moat. It has a moat.


i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by.


Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share.

Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting.

Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake.

In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016.

I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but...

I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy.

KK
Unga
KenRe
I&M
Williamson/Kapchorua

Some TPSEA
Some C&G
Some Equity
Some FTHG

No KQ
No Mumias
No Merali
No Nyammo

Do I sleep at night? Yes.

Sehemu ndio nyumba
Ebenyo
#718 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:58:07 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,997
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme


Why Kenya Re?


I guess its because of @VVS factor?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan.
- I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned.
- I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-]
- I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others.
- Moat. It has a moat.


i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by.


Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share.

Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting.

Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake.

In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016.

I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but...

I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy.

KK
Unga
KenRe
I&M
Williamson/Kapchorua

Some TPSEA
Some C&G
Some Equity
Some FTHG

No KQ
No Mumias
No Merali
No Nyammo

Do I sleep at night? Yes.


Thanks for opening up further.
Im also a long timer because my target is to achieve financial freedom through NSE.
I havent touched all the dividends i have received this year.I will divide it into 12 months from January next year.So for the whole year 2017 i will have something everymonth.
The dividends for the next year 2017 i will do the same for 2018.
From your list above,i already have KenRe and Equity.I was closing in on Unga and Williamson. Hopefuly by next near i will be in.





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obiero
#719 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:17:30 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
bartum wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
[quote=obiero]stocks to avoid 25.03.16: transcentury, sameer, britam, eveready, express, marshalls, olympia, carbacid, eabl, eapc, cables, mumias, home afrika, kq, tpsea, kurwitu, uchumi, stanchart, cfcstanbic, nbk, umeme


Still asking WHY? Did you give an answer last time?


People will drink, the govt will fight illicit making eabl be king, keroche is taken care of by KRA ,so question is why??

Why eabl, and the senetor keg now in full supply,i see daily pick-ups full of those drums


Good company, expensive price.

You will still hear someone ask why NBK, why CABL.. The writing is on the wall

see now, supplier power at EABL ala Porter's five decrees http://www.businessdaily.../-/ya9owdz/-/index.html[/quote]
news just in.. the suppliers have won the case against EABL. Lower margin of profit expected unless prices are increased
Bullshit.

why are you calling out your wife's name
Coz she is your sister. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

really? then I must be your father, coz I have been with your mother

@Obiero - You are all talk no action. You can't even get up (your defenses) yet resort to bragging and insults.

Oh, well... don't forget the 100,000/- donation towards a charity I choose. Bye.

EABL is in trouble..

I duly informed wazua on the EABL issue. Now look http://www.businessdaily...93396-hk2brfz/index.html

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#720 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2016 10:17:46 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,519
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2017 holds great promise for the bold trader, but some pitfalls must be avoided.. Here at wazua, we share

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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