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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:@Obiero Are you defending your kengen rights? No. I am sitting it out and shall purchase postrights. I am relatively certain of lower prices in near future Like KQ? He he. hahaha Slow but sure HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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KQ sell sell sell In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:KQ sell sell sell Up 8% KES 6.20 has printed HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
mbona KQ hakuna kwa hii list? Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why HFCK?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why HFCK? Strained liquidity HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan. - I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned. - I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-] - I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others. - Moat. It has a moat. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,691 Location: NAIROBI
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@VVS Wapee wapee eeh vidonge vyao,wakimeza wakitema ni shauri yao Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why HFCK? Strained liquidity Please explain...I am not that good in accounting
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan. - I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned. - I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-] - I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others. - Moat. It has a moat. i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,691 Location: NAIROBI
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@Ebenyo Waiting for kenya re at 17 is like waiting for safaricom to reach 12. Just accept the reality and adjust your price upwards Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:@Ebenyo Waiting for kenya re at 17 is like waiting for safaricom to reach 12. Just accept the reality and adjust your price upwards @Ericsson,You are right.My average buying price for kenre now is 21.21.I will try to work it down.But for safaricom,its tough.I will have to adjust it up.The current price is 21 vs my abp of 16.60. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan. - I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned. - I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-] - I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others. - Moat. It has a moat. i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by. Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share. Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting. Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake. In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016. I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but... I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy. KK Unga KenRe I&M Williamson/Kapchorua Some TPSEA Some C&G Some Equity Some FTHG No KQ No Mumias No Merali No Nyammo Do I sleep at night? Yes. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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A little Wamae? VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan. - I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned. - I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-] - I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others. - Moat. It has a moat. i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by. Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share. Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting. Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake. In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016. I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but... I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy. KK Unga KenRe I&M Williamson/Kapchorua Some TPSEA Some C&G Some Equity Some FTHG No KQ No Mumias No Merali No Nyammo Do I sleep at night? Yes. Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade cautiously 12.11.16: atlas, barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, cic, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, kapch, kenre, kurwitu, marshalls, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, umeme
Why Kenya Re? I guess its because of @VVS factor? I am content with KenyaRe despite all sorts of mud-slinging about its conservative nature. I remain a WB fan. - I like & trust the CURRENT KenRe management despite KenRe being GoK-owned. - I like their cash on hand [almost 20/-] - I like there non-flashy business. Solid. Some years are better than others. - Moat. It has a moat. i like your investment policy which seems to be longterm oriented.I have waited for kenre for three months to get at 17.00 but i failed.I decided to get in last month but at 20.75.I will now try to average down my price slowly as times goes by. Price - I can't help you. Do I think it is under-priced? Yes. Just the cash [& near cash] KenRe has is almost 20/- per share. Business - I believe, despite setbacks which is a risk in insurance, KenRe has good assets, liabilities that can be covered by current assets and conservative underwriting. Many (re)insurers make underwriting losses and hope to cover these through gains on investments. Kenya Re has UNDERWRITING PROFITS almost every year since 2012 [I first bought KenRe in 2012 after dumping KQ]. Not huge but every penny helps. The gain from investment is icing on the cake. In 2015, KenRe took losses from the Nepal Earthquake but some of the risk they underwrote had been retrocessioned i.e. they reinsured some of the reinsurance risk they took on. The MD said they expect to be (re)paid in 2016. I expect a lot of Political Violence insurance underwritten in 2016 in Kenya. I hope there's no PEV but... I do not have the time, energy nor inclination to "trade" so I buy shares I think will pay off in the long-term. MANAGEMENT has to be trustworthy. KK Unga KenRe I&M Williamson/Kapchorua Some TPSEA Some C&G Some Equity Some FTHG No KQ No Mumias No Merali No Nyammo Do I sleep at night? Yes. Thanks for opening up further. Im also a long timer because my target is to achieve financial freedom through NSE. I havent touched all the dividends i have received this year.I will divide it into 12 months from January next year.So for the whole year 2017 i will have something everymonth. The dividends for the next year 2017 i will do the same for 2018. From your list above,i already have KenRe and Equity.I was closing in on Unga and Williamson. Hopefuly by next near i will be in. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:bartum wrote:enyands wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=obiero]stocks to avoid 25.03.16: transcentury, sameer, britam, eveready, express, marshalls, olympia, carbacid, eabl, eapc, cables, mumias, home afrika, kq, tpsea, kurwitu, uchumi, stanchart, cfcstanbic, nbk, umeme
Still asking WHY? Did you give an answer last time? People will drink, the govt will fight illicit making eabl be king, keroche is taken care of by KRA ,so question is why?? Why eabl, and the senetor keg now in full supply,i see daily pick-ups full of those drums Good company, expensive price. You will still hear someone ask why NBK, why CABL.. The writing is on the wall see now, supplier power at EABL ala Porter's five decrees http://www.businessdaily.../-/ya9owdz/-/index.html[/quote] news just in.. the suppliers have won the case against EABL. Lower margin of profit expected unless prices are increased Bullshit. why are you calling out your wife's name Coz she is your sister. really? then I must be your father, coz I have been with your mother @Obiero - You are all talk no action. You can't even get up (your defenses) yet resort to bragging and insults. Oh, well... don't forget the 100,000/- donation towards a charity I choose. Bye. EABL is in trouble.. I duly informed wazua on the EABL issue. Now look http://www.businessdaily...93396-hk2brfz/index.html HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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2017 holds great promise for the bold trader, but some pitfalls must be avoided.. Here at wazua, we share HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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