Jeremiah 1:5 … before I knit you in your mother’s womb I chose you. Before you were born I set you apart…
Isaiah 44:2a … I am your creator. You were in my care even before you were born…

I’m not a fluke… neither am I a freak of nature… nor an accident. I am no mistake nor am I a mishap. My existence is not by chance, fate, luck nor coincidence.
Long before I was conceived by my parents I was conceived in the mind of God. Am a being of precise and deliberate thinking to come to existence

Psalms 139:16 … You saw me before I was born… and scheduled each day of my life before I begun to breathe. Everyday of my life was recorded in your Book

Psalms 139:15 … You know me inside and out, you know every bone in my body; You know exactly how I was made, bit by bit, how I was sculpted from nothing into something

He deliberately chose that I be a dude, kao, 5”5, dark skinned, kinky haired, loud, opinionated, stubborn, passionate…He custom made me just the way He wanted me to be… He determined my gifting and talents, my inclinations, my interests, my desires and all that is me… my love for piano, my enthusiasm for stocks… more over He crafted and knit together my peculiarities and uniqueness… He wired my thinking… He deliberately planned where I’d be born, to whom I’d be born, when I’d be born

Nothing about me was a surprise to Him… I’m exactly what He envisioned… shaped for a specific reason and purpose only He could determine. His reason, His purposes. He knows me so well.

Psalms 139:1-5 … Lord, you have examined me and know all about me.
You know when I sit down and when I get up
You know my thoughts before I think them you know where I go and where I lie down.
You know everything I do
Lord, even before I say a word you already know it
You are all around me-in front and in back-
And have put your hand on me.

It’s amazing that God decided how I would be born! Regardless of the circumstances of my birth, nor who my parents are, nor what my family is like. God planned where I’d be born, where I’d live… every single day of my life to the very least of details… including when and how my life will end

God never does anything accidentally, and He never makes mistakes. He has a reason for everything he creates. Every plant and every animal… including the mosquito you quashed last night and the roach u smashed this morning… the grass you trod upon and the rose you picked for her… the bird that calls and makes you marvel at nature… every single live being that adds to the beauty, harmony and tranquility of nature… “All creation declares His glory” is a statement of fact… not a witty poetic expression. Every person was designed with a purpose in mind…

The concept of the existence of evil and sin means that satan will continually and persistently attempt to thwart the will and purposes of God in this world… what better way than terminate life? Are at least conjure up methods where man does this for him?

Life is not ours to doctor… to define… neither is it ours to determine nor end…
This is why we cannot let the decision to terminate life is defined by a single “medical practitioner, nor as permitted by any other written law…”as is provided by in the draft constitution.

The one positive thing about the current constitution is that it requires the ATLEAST 3 Licensed medical practitioners, including a gynecologist, and a psychologist before approving an abortion procedure…


How therefore can I be expected to vote “Yes” for this draft? Seriously help me understand…
All ye “experts” out there!

The claim by clergy is that the draft should ADD the fact that “Life is sacred and starts at conception”… and that more stringent rules be in place where abortion is warranted. 10 years down the line, it is the lady that procured the abortion that is still reeling from nightmares and traumas of the abortion… not the physician that did it… interestingly… she will go to the pastor for help!!


Are we so desperate for change that we are willing to put God aside?... do we really believe we can handle the psychological fall out?

whatever choice i vote...am i a Christian first and then a kenyan.. or am I kenyan first?

@nanfor1, the pro-choicers in this conversation are always pointing to the obvious. please read the PSC draft to understand



was changed to



and you wonder why there is all this noise!!

@nan..
this is just an opinion.
i'm no legal expert..all i know..the draft ought cover loop holes..not redress nor open new ones..
My use of the term "doctor" has nothing to do with medical practice.. just english word to cater for "meddling".

well.. when all is said and done to vote "yes" or "no" is an individual right..

my opinion is based on the fact that if I claim to be Christian..then that aspect of me that is christian should influence my life.. and my life choices..including how that life is governed..so the Bible has a say in it..my life.. i am not seeking influence you to vote my choice..just letting you know why i will not vote your choice...

Progress at last

We agree to disagree. Not agree to bring hell and brimstone and a few matchetes.

@wendz...he is better than those choosing not to vote but pray instead..not realising that if God Himself came to vote His vote would be counted as ONE!!!...our system has not considered trintarium capacity.. such is life. just make your vote count.

voting is of men and their convictions...no matter how warped the convictions may be.

A simple question, is Kenya a Christian state or a secular state?

@KulaRaha, is Kenya a Christian state, a Islamic state or a secular state?
@nanfor1, then why bother printing the draft and giving it to kenyans who in your words "wont know how to interpret it?" why not give it to judges? you know why? it begins in the preamble:

Kenyans must read and interpret the document.

the CoE should have added this to the Interpretation section of the Draft. a list of medical practitioners that should do an abortion, An operation is not done by any "trained medical professional"... so should an abortion. A nurse cannot operate on an ectopic pregnancy!! a nurse cannot do DNC. Can a nurse administer methotrexate? I insist , they must list the professions in the interpretation section (article 260). if they can interpret a judicial officer they can interpret a "trained medical professional"



agreed but threat to physical health only, you getting stressed or mad over a pregnancy should not be cause for someone to loose their life. (remember life begins at conception)

this is just bull cr*p and you know it- i dare not engage you on this while i know you were smiling while spewing up this nonsense. where else has it been included?

this door will be closed to prevent abuse. its a never ending war that we are willing to engage in. there is no high price to pay for conviction.

@Pastor M

I think science is able to determine with certainty the stage of a foetus development. The question you should be answering is 'what will you be saving at 1 month or 2 months'. Off course God can save the foetus as he has throughout eternity but he has also given us knowledge of science to improve our chances of life.

You trust science to give you medicine to get better, but you do not want to give that mother with a difficult pregnancy the right to live by insisting she carries through a problem pregnancy that will take away her life and any chance to have other children in future

@Obi, i beg to correct Raila. from the time the zygote is formed it has everything (they are described in the DNA). A baby has pubic hair (its only that the hair has not grown). A Zygote does not take anything other than nourishment from the mother, it has its own systems (thus considered a person).
the stages of a person
are Zygote, foetus, baby , toddler e.t.c.
Our issue is the not saving of a mothers life, its the abuse that part of the constitution is prone to.