@KulaRaha, is Kenya a Christian state, a Islamic state or a secular state?
@nanfor1, then why bother printing the draft and giving it to kenyans who in your words "wont know how to interpret it?" why not give it to judges? you know why? it begins in the preamble:
Quote:We, the people of Kenya...
Kenyans must read and interpret the document.
nanfor1 wrote:
Not everyone lives in Nairobi with a doctor nearby you know. So going by the first defination, everyone in my home area in marakwet who has not seen a doctor for more than a year can be charged in a court of law if their wife decides to give birth in the streets..We have to be realistic here or we shall have everyone in N.E.P and Turkana in jail next week.
the CoE should have added this to the Interpretation section of the Draft. a list of medical practitioners that should do an abortion, An operation is not done by any "trained medical professional"... so should an abortion. A nurse cannot operate on an ectopic pregnancy!! a nurse cannot do DNC. Can a nurse administer methotrexate? I insist , they must list the professions in the interpretation section (article 260). if they can interpret a judicial officer they can interpret a "trained medical professional"
Quote:“judicial officer” means a registrar, deputy registrar, magistrate, Kadhi or
the presiding officer of a court established under Article 169 (1) (d);
nanfor1 wrote:
life or health of the mother - We are in 2010 and the world really is round so,health must encompass both physical and mental.
agreed but threat to physical health only, you getting stressed or mad over a pregnancy should not be cause for someone to loose their life. (remember life begins at conception)
nanfor1 wrote:
Permitted by any other law - I know you think that this means that parliament will pass a law forcing everyone to abort the next birth. If that is your fear, then go vote for a good MP. Times change and you never know what new things will come up soon. That must be included in any reasonable constitution.
this is just bull cr*p and you know it- i dare not engage you on this while i know you were smiling while spewing up this nonsense. where else has it been included?
nanfor1 wrote:
Masukuma. If the clergy had left the clause the way it was from bomas, I can assure you, this would not be happening.
By insisting that life begins at conception it meant that every woman who took a contraceptive in Kenya was guilty of murder.
That would include all the women I know; probably including your daughter, wife or mom. The other parts of the (4) had to be added to protect such.
By being too aggressive, they opened a door they can never shut.
this door will be closed to prevent abuse. its a never ending war that we are willing to engage in. there is no high price to pay for conviction.
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