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Equity Bank Q3 2016
watesh
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:25:01 PM
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Q3 results Thursday morning
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:27:46 AM
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EQT has a tendancy of lying about their livestream...bure kabisa
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obiero
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:33:21 AM
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murchr wrote:
EQT has a tendancy of lying about their livestream...bure kabisa

The results will be the best ever

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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:12:38 AM
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Q12017 is going to be a rude shock for everyone.
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watesh
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:20:37 AM
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Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO
muganda
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:40:03 AM
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Trend maintained from HY. Profit before/after tax up 18%.
Many stories but the secret came down to cost income ratio in Q3 now at 49.2% down from 53%

Shak
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:12:22 AM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

I love their determination. It is possible. Let them aim high
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#8 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:44:27 AM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO



This is possible if if they manage the transaction eccosystem to keep the money inside equity. if you notice they released the EASSy API targeting merchants.
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watesh
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:15:35 AM
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Shak wrote:
watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

I love their determination. It is possible. Let them aim high

It is possible to grow to that number but not realistic to overtake safaricom in such a short time, unless something catastrophic happens to mpesa. The growth of Equitel transaction numbers was through a large influx of customers into the platform. However, its already slowing down June +124k, July +92k, August +79k, September +59k. Mpesa monthly active customers average +250k a month.
Unless Equity's average transaction per user grows tremendously, there wont be any overtaking in two years.
mlennyma
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:25:18 AM
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As everyone puts it let's wait for Q1 2017 to judge banks but Q4 will also send clearer signals
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#11 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:28:02 AM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO



What is wrong with having ambition?.Besides nothing is impossible especially taking into account where equity bank is coming from, ask Barclays or Stanchart the big DAWGS of yester years.
subaru
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:14:43 PM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

After disabling my easy 247 on my main line and not saying anything about it have tried to use my equitel line to transfer to mpesa and guess what it failed in the last 2 days and yet they want to beat safcom no way
washiku
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:35:18 PM
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subaru wrote:
watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

After disabling my easy 247 on my main line and not saying anything about it have tried to use my equitel line to transfer to mpesa and guess what it failed in the last 2 days and yet they want to beat safcom no way


What? 2 days? Their transactions go through in seconds. Your line/account must have an issue. Seek help from their customer service.
MaichBlack
#14 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2016 2:05:51 PM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

This Equity guys are jokers!!! Can you imagine they once dreamt of having branches countrywide and being bigger than the mighty Barclays and Standard Chartered in Kenya! How dare they!!?? How did that dream end?? Oops!!! It was realized??? Get my drift???

Of course Safaricom is such a huge, dynamic and innovative competitor and will not lose turf sitting down, but you cannot just roll over and give up. You fight and believe in yourself and chances of winning!!! James Mwangi and crew have that mentality. Good for me. A shareholder of BOTH Equity and Safaricom. I am like a father watching his two highly successful kids competing for even more glory. What a proud moment as a dad!!! Wapi popcorns???
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#15 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2016 9:04:12 PM
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Uganda subsidiary gave 0.5billion PAT and DRC subsidiary gave a similar amount. I believe that these two countries are the best growth opportunity for Equity going forward. They should both bring a billion each going forward, and then Equity will be partly shielded from the rates cap. In six years, subsidiaries should contribute 50% of the group's profits if they are ambitious enough.
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#16 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2016 9:40:17 PM
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watesh wrote:
Biggest joke i heard on the livestream, Equitel will overtake Mpesa in two years in terms of volume. In one quarter (Q2) Equitel moves 140bn while Safaricom 807bn, still A LOOOONG WAY TO GO

Overly optimistic/ambitious maybe but that statement is definitely not a joke. Besides the two products are at different levels of maturity/growth.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
lochaz-index
#17 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2016 9:44:26 PM
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muganda wrote:
Trend maintained from HY. Profit before/after tax up 18%.
Many stories but the secret came down to cost income ratio in Q3 now at 49.2% down from 53%


Agreed. The improved bottom line is attributable to cost management more than anything else.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
lochaz-index
#18 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2016 11:11:58 PM
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Equity bank KE Q3 results look good on the surface but a bit wobbly below it.

1. In relative terms growth in the loan portfolio has been about 24% YoY for four years (2011-2015). If you compute the growth rate for 2016(by extrapolating till end of the year using current year growth rates) it tanks to less than 1%. In absolute terms, the corresponding four year average has been been circa 39b. For 2016 the same comes to little under 2b.

2. Flight to quality after the belly up stunts of three banks has not helped Equity to shore up its deposit base in 2016 as was the case in 2015. Current year deposit growth is also outpaced by all the previous four years (2011-2014) in relative terms and only beats 2011 & 2012 in absolute numbers.

3. Last I checked the cash reserve ratio was at 5.25%. Has this changed? Coz when I compute Equity KE's CRR for Q3, the figure falls way short of the statutory minimum coming in at 4.29%, or am I missing something? Under what circumstances and for how long are banks allowed to hold less than the stipulated percentage?

4. Equity has been bulking up on its liquidity in the last two quarters. Given the economic conditions, liquidity preference is understandable but the rate of bulking up is a tad startling. This is exemplified by the following:

a). Decreasing increase in the loan portfolio as explained above.

b). Shrinking loan to deposit ratios which is evident in all three 2016 quarters.

c). Decreasing CRR from Q1 all through to Q3.

d). Spike in government securities held for sale. Q3 portfolio is over 4 times the respective Q1 figure and about 1.5 times the Q2 stat.

What is prompting this? Why are they prepping themselves in what appears to be a hurry, any blind corners in the horizon other than the obvious ones?

5. Its capital buffer is thinning out partly explaining its reluctance to lend in the current financial year. A capital injection is due, bear run or no bear run.

6. NIM is falling as a thanks to an anemic economy. This is even before the interest caps take full effect. These twin issues will make life hard/harder for banks to navigate.

7. Lower CTI's have been the saving grace for the most part in 2016. Equitel and automation of tasks will continually reduce the CTI (the target was 42%) in the immediate future. This will be achieved at the expense of employee headcount which started last year. A total of 1060 employees have faced the chopping board in two years.

Was there an official explanation on the jump in letters of credit, guarantees and acceptances figure from 18b in Q2 to 29b in Q3?
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sparkly
#19 Posted : Saturday, November 05, 2016 5:53:15 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Equity bank KE Q3 results look good on the surface but a bit wobbly below it.

1. In relative terms growth in the loan portfolio has been about 24% YoY for four years (2011-2015). If you compute the growth rate for 2016(by extrapolating till end of the year using current year growth rates) it tanks to less than 1%. In absolute terms, the corresponding four year average has been been circa 39b. For 2016 the same comes to little under 2b.

2. Flight to quality after the belly up stunts of three banks has not helped Equity to shore up its deposit base in 2016 as was the case in 2015. Current year deposit growth is also outpaced by all the previous four years (2011-2014) in relative terms and only beats 2011 & 2012 in absolute numbers.

3. Last I checked the cash reserve ratio was at 5.25%. Has this changed? Coz when I compute Equity KE's CRR for Q3, the figure falls way short of the statutory minimum coming in at 4.29%, or am I missing something? Under what circumstances and for how long are banks allowed to hold less than the stipulated percentage?

4. Equity has been bulking up on its liquidity in the last two quarters. Given the economic conditions, liquidity preference is understandable but the rate of bulking up is a tad startling. This is exemplified by the following:

a). Decreasing increase in the loan portfolio as explained above.

b). Shrinking loan to deposit ratios which is evident in all three 2016 quarters.

c). Decreasing CRR from Q1 all through to Q3.

d). Spike in government securities held for sale. Q3 portfolio is over 4 times the respective Q1 figure and about 1.5 times the Q2 stat.

What is prompting this? Why are they prepping themselves in what appears to be a hurry, any blind corners in the horizon other than the obvious ones?

5. Its capital buffer is thinning out partly explaining its reluctance to lend in the current financial year. A capital injection is due, bear run or no bear run.

6. NIM is falling as a thanks to an anemic economy. This is even before the interest caps take full effect. These twin issues will make life hard/harder for banks to navigate.

7. Lower CTI's have been the saving grace for the most part in 2016. Equitel and automation of tasks will continually reduce the CTI (the target was 42%) in the immediate future. This will be achieved at the expense of employee headcount which started last year. A total of 1060 employees have faced the chopping board in two years.

Was there an official explanation on the jump in letters of credit, guarantees and acceptances figure from 18b in Q2 to 29b in Q3?


Kudos for the analysis. What do you reckon the impact on the bottom line will be?
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#20 Posted : Saturday, November 05, 2016 7:49:58 AM
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Member offloaded HF to Britam and Helios sold a sizable chunk of Member and a Member director offered 10B to buyout Rawat stake in Britam. This drama ain't over... The golden handcuffs are still very shiny for those interested. TCL is a nice signal of the undercurrents.
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