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masukuma
#21 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 7:55:03 PM
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@uwazimtupu, I just wanted a clarification on who runs the SACCO. since you had just mentioned that on the topic but nothing on the content.
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tmatekwa
#22 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:29:15 AM
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There is a fraud investigation unit at central police station. We also have a fully fledged CID office at kilimani police station. Maybe you should have the proffessionals look into it
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bkismat
#23 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:05:25 AM
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This is the problem of listening and believing everything you are told by church leaders.Now how do you want us to help you?
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Wendz
#24 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:09:03 AM
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@brewer,

You know, in this site we have all manner of people working in different capacities and in differnt organisations... infact, this is the best site to seek help because it is unlikely that you can know the kind of people you meet from this site.

Is the sacco registered with the umbrella body - i think its KUSCCO if am not wrong? i think if this matter is presented there, they can be of help.... I remember there a guy from KUSCCO on this site and he gave his address on another thread - cant remember which one.

Sometimes we are too quick to defend our church leaders when we know very well that there have been issues with our own churches.... we cant continue burying our heads in the sand.
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Pablo
#25 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:55:18 AM
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@masukuma
I am not saying that the bishop is guilty. Possibly he is hot communicating what is happening.

Church people need to carefull when dealing with 'pastors'. Not all are bad but they have this air that what they say is beyond reproach and that your guard is already down.

Remember most of they guys who lost their money in pyramids were church people roped in by they pastors.
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sheep
#26 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:13:12 AM
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I think you people dont get it.This are spiritual matters in which you are not qualified to recieve.Faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things not seen(Heb 11.1)

Yaani this were meant to be spiritual houses and by faith shall they materialise...what we have here is a brother who has fallen away from faith.

Brothers and sisters dont loose faith,since you planted the seed of faith,your houses will grow in due time and glorious shall the houses be.

The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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Brewer
#27 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:16:31 AM
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Wendz, sure sure we are a great resource on this site, and for the same reason someone may take advantage of the popularity of the site to settle private fights with people who may not come to defend themselves here. Have you, for instance, noticed the title of the thread and the content do not tally.

Quick to defend our church leaders? We carry such a big burden of defending our political leaders I do not think we have capacity/strength to defend anyone else!
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FundamentAli
#28 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:53:00 AM
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@uwazimu..

Why stick around if they are ready to hgive you back your money. Make an excuse and collect your cash or sell your share. You are not boxed in their. Running public finances is a nightmare as noise must be made.
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Wa_ithaka
#29 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:17:07 AM
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I'm surprised that in a so-called deomocracy like ours, we got mawatu saying you shouldn't be raising issues. As long as uwazi has done his/er research and believes the pishop is a thief, he needs to be mulikwa'd just like other thieves
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nanfor1
#30 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:43:49 AM
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I wonder why vilify the poster?

what is so shocking about a pastor not being straight with land? They are human aren't they?

What exactly does a "man of God" mean? He can't steal, he can't fornicate, he can't spit, he is infallible?

the poster was not attacking NPC, he was discussing this particular "man of God".
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