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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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@alma hapo sawa, I understand the political angle and all the mess that comes with it, tz also have had a certain tradition of doing things.
@AlphDoti most of us here are not tanzanians, we are not discussing this as a means of changing whatever they are doing huko, its just a discussion on the leadership style and management of one Magufuli.
@wukan and @Obi look objectively at this scenario, a president going into a government office and start to cause hell for guys whose work is to look at computer screens, thats the equivalent of say steve jobs going to foxconn and causing hell to the production line workers.
In ever system there is always an aspect of designing and implementing, there is no way say steve jobs or even akina bob or mj would go to an implementing guy huko kwa last part of the chain and start arguing with them about processes, thats not in their jd, and even if they seem not to be performing arguing with the on tv does not aurgur well will the rest of the command chain.
My question is, in the two popular instances where he has gone on to argue with employees on tv, both of those happen to fall under the docket of a certain ministry, and both instances happen to be mostly to do with processes, its not like he went and found only a court on a chair or found a guy deep in sleep, these are guys who are just doing what they are told, following a process that he is supposed to be helping formulate.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:wukan wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:alma1 wrote:There was someone on this forum who said the majority of wazua users are employees. This thread is proof of that.
Maghafuli is the CEO of the country and he was elected with the mandate of changing how things are done. He also declared if anything goes wrong, its his fault.
Now imagine the owner of a business, the telephone farmer who doesn't go to his farm because ati he's got his farm manager taking care of things. When he goes to the farm, he finds that the cow is sick. He then decides that since he has "checks and balances", he'll leave the sick cow to the manager. With a written warning since he has to follow another "procedure".
Who owns a business here and pretends that they don't care about what's going on?
Yes, on my chicken farm, I tend to know when gumboro is supposed to be administered and even do it together with the farm hands when I can. That is not micro management, that is good management.
There is a problem with Tanzania and he's trying to fix it.
His record is clear for everyone to see.
Just take a trip between Nairobi and Arusha.
Compare the road from Kitengela to Namamga and the road from Namanga to Arusha...Look at the roads he did when he was minister. Not a single pot hole. He used to go the roads with a stake then order the constructor to redo a huge section at their expense.
You will keep quiet and let the guy do what he thinks is best.
You should be busy deciding whom between Kidero and Sonko you should elect. That's the best we can do here. Wachaneni na wao na micro management.
I wonder what this MBA is worth anymore in this country. It seems as long as you can pay the fees, you get the piece of paper. Its good as a business owner to follow up stuff, but I think if you have employed people to take care of certain aspects of your business, it becomes absurd when you go around doing what you employed them to do, imagine Atul Shah going around the cashier counters at nakumatt confirming the collections, checking if all the products are being scanned and stuff, I mean you have a branch manager to do that, give them targets and let them give you reports which you act on. In this case a report showing how many cars go through, the number scanned, the time frames involved, e.t.c would be a better indicator of efficiency, discuss the same at cabinet level, task the minister and his technocrats to do what they are employed to do, not going to scare junior employees, I mean for those employees, just talking to the head of state is a big occasion, now add to it that they have to explain some processes that were put in place by the minister and the technocrats and it becomes a daunting task. Just imagine (steve jobs) going to foxconn, and on the production line asking some ka hungry guy why the production line is moving in an anti-clockwise direction and not in a clockwise direction. Steve Jobs was one maniacal micromanager and a dictator he only reformed in last years. Please check online on how steve Jobs was running meetings and you will think Magafuli is an angel. Jobs went into his research lab shutting down the AppleII until he found the guy working on the Mackintosh. Now we are getting there, its not only Steve Jobs, all successful managers are generally hands on maniacs who will ride your arse if you are not performing. If you want CEO's who follow protocal, look no further than the Mbuzi Ngunze's of this world i think we are seeing different things, I mean its ok if say steve jobs called his designers into his office and proceeded to toa the hair dryer, but do you see a scenario where he went say into an apple shop and then went on to argue with the cashier why the barcode scanner was not working, or why the cashier was sitting behind desk and not being able to see what customers were walking out with, there is hands on lakini hiyo ya ceo ku argue na cashier about a barcode scanner is just a complete breakdown of processes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:wukan wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:alma1 wrote:There was someone on this forum who said the majority of wazua users are employees. This thread is proof of that.
Maghafuli is the CEO of the country and he was elected with the mandate of changing how things are done. He also declared if anything goes wrong, its his fault.
Now imagine the owner of a business, the telephone farmer who doesn't go to his farm because ati he's got his farm manager taking care of things. When he goes to the farm, he finds that the cow is sick. He then decides that since he has "checks and balances", he'll leave the sick cow to the manager. With a written warning since he has to follow another "procedure".
Who owns a business here and pretends that they don't care about what's going on?
Yes, on my chicken farm, I tend to know when gumboro is supposed to be administered and even do it together with the farm hands when I can. That is not micro management, that is good management.
There is a problem with Tanzania and he's trying to fix it.
His record is clear for everyone to see.
Just take a trip between Nairobi and Arusha.
Compare the road from Kitengela to Namamga and the road from Namanga to Arusha...Look at the roads he did when he was minister. Not a single pot hole. He used to go the roads with a stake then order the constructor to redo a huge section at their expense.
You will keep quiet and let the guy do what he thinks is best.
You should be busy deciding whom between Kidero and Sonko you should elect. That's the best we can do here. Wachaneni na wao na micro management.
I wonder what this MBA is worth anymore in this country. It seems as long as you can pay the fees, you get the piece of paper. Its good as a business owner to follow up stuff, but I think if you have employed people to take care of certain aspects of your business, it becomes absurd when you go around doing what you employed them to do, imagine Atul Shah going around the cashier counters at nakumatt confirming the collections, checking if all the products are being scanned and stuff, I mean you have a branch manager to do that, give them targets and let them give you reports which you act on. In this case a report showing how many cars go through, the number scanned, the time frames involved, e.t.c would be a better indicator of efficiency, discuss the same at cabinet level, task the minister and his technocrats to do what they are employed to do, not going to scare junior employees, I mean for those employees, just talking to the head of state is a big occasion, now add to it that they have to explain some processes that were put in place by the minister and the technocrats and it becomes a daunting task. Just imagine (steve jobs) going to foxconn, and on the production line asking some ka hungry guy why the production line is moving in an anti-clockwise direction and not in a clockwise direction. Steve Jobs was one maniacal micromanager and a dictator he only reformed in last years. Please check online on how steve Jobs was running meetings and you will think Magafuli is an angel. Jobs went into his research lab shutting down the AppleII until he found the guy working on the Mackintosh. Now we are getting there, its not only Steve Jobs, all successful managers are generally hands on maniacs who will ride your arse if you are not performing. If you want CEO's who follow protocal, look no further than the Mbuzi Ngunze's of this world i think we are seeing different things, I mean its ok if say steve jobs called his designers into his office and proceeded to toa the hair dryer, but do you see a scenario where he went say into an apple shop and then went on to argue with the cashier why the barcode scanner was not working, or why the cashier was sitting behind desk and not being able to see what customers were walking out with, there is hands on lakini hiyo ya ceo ku argue na cashier about a barcode scanner is just a complete breakdown of processes. Has it ever occurred you that he is trying to communicate something to Tanzanians and government employees. He wants to stamp out corruption, laziness and non performance, what better way to make every Tanzanian govt employee think that it may be them tomorrow. His berating of incompetent low cadre staff is probably a better mode of communication than reading some inspiring speech during mashujaa day (as I expect we will soon have) Remember again that Magufuli probably has more leeway than a manager in the private sector in regards to how he deals with employees. Offcourse managers are restrained by culture and legal consequences on how far he can berate employees. Tafakari hayo "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Any management style that does not focus on getting the right people in the right jobs and then letting them get on with their jobs is bound to fail! Ma-padlock has his heart in the right place, but he is yelling at people to get their act together, yet they don't even know what the "Act" is. i.e. what they are supposed to be doing. Recession is guaranteed IMHO.
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wa..Ukweli, basi tusemeje..Hayo ndio mapenzi!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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H.E. Pombe will be in town tomorrow for two day state visit. The government of Kenya calls on all citizens to be in their best behavior and be well groomed. How i wish this man will address the nation Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Fyatu wrote:H.E. Pombe will be in town tomorrow for two day state visit. The government of Kenya calls on all citizens to be in their best behavior and be well groomed. How i wish this man will address the nation We shall dutifully listen to him, then critique HIM according to OUR various tints and shades of gogos. Akule nyama halafu aende zake. I care!
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thuks wrote:Fyatu wrote:H.E. Pombe will be in town tomorrow for two day state visit. The government of Kenya calls on all citizens to be in their best behavior and be well groomed. How i wish this man will address the nation We shall dutifully listen to him, then critique HIM according to OUR various tints and shades of gogos. Akule nyama halafu aende zake. Someone should alert him akae randa akikutana na hawa wazee. Otherwise simu na wallet atabaki na viulizo ??????
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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H.E. Pombe has borded a matatu from somewhere in TZ to Nairobi. He is expected to a light in river road mida ya saa nane RINKthis man! Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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