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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
ArrestedDev
#5981 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:01:43 AM
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Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
alotoftalk wrote:
ICPAK has lost the plot http://ntv.nation.co.ke/...4700-6q749pz/index.html

How is a adoption of bad business plan not a management failure and poor governance?

Who takes the fall when KQ adopts a bad business plan. In my mind the senior management and board need to take the fall for such a blunder.


Indeed, that guy is not speaking on behalf of ICPAK members, he should be asked to retract those statements.

What is ailing KQ is mismanagement and corruption coupled with political interference common with former state owned enterprises.

In order for an airline to prosper,high standard of service and controls must be there.

Spikes
#5982 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:07:59 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
ArrestedDev wrote:
Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


No serious expansion by KQ to be done any time soon. The delay in putting in place the right people is even messing up the future of the Airline.

Ngunze auctioned the planes in the name of turnaround. No plane should have left the fleet, there is enough demand and only the root cause of low uptake of passengers by KQ should have been addressed e.g. pricing including ticketing malpractices by staff and travel agents as identified in the forensic report, poor customer service, etc.

Angola was done long before he joined the board.




Which means all these actions of selling landing slot at Heathrow airport, Embakasi prime land, selling planes and leasing pilots were motivated by malice or poor business strategy aka priority.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
ArrestedDev
#5983 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:17:16 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Spikes wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


No serious expansion by KQ to be done any time soon. The delay in putting in place the right people is even messing up the future of the Airline.

Ngunze auctioned the planes in the name of turnaround. No plane should have left the fleet, there is enough demand and only the root cause of low uptake of passengers by KQ should have been addressed e.g. pricing including ticketing malpractices by staff and travel agents as identified in the forensic report, poor customer service, etc.

Angola was done long before he joined the board.




Which means all these actions of selling landing slot at Heathrow airport, Embakasi prime land, selling planes and leasing pilots were motivated by malice or poor business strategy aka priority.


Exactly, all those decisions were made without the necessary due care, diligence and interest of the Company.

The level of deliberations on key business decisions among the top management of KQ is totally absurd to say the least. Look at the Mckinsey contract executed by Alex and Ngunze for instance, if they did not receive kickbacks then what can you call it? Total incompetence.




Spikes
#5984 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:26:50 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
ArrestedDev wrote:
Spikes wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


No serious expansion by KQ to be done any time soon. The delay in putting in place the right people is even messing up the future of the Airline.

Ngunze auctioned the planes in the name of turnaround. No plane should have left the fleet, there is enough demand and only the root cause of low uptake of passengers by KQ should have been addressed e.g. pricing including ticketing malpractices by staff and travel agents as identified in the forensic report, poor customer service, etc.

Angola was done long before he joined the board.




Which means all these actions of selling landing slot at Heathrow airport, Embakasi prime land, selling planes and leasing pilots were motivated by malice or poor business strategy aka priority.


Exactly, all those decisions were made without the necessary due care, diligence and interest of the Company.

The level of deliberations on key business decisions among the top management of KQ is totally absurd to say the least. Look at the Mckinsey contract executed by Alex and Ngunze for instance, if they did not receive kickbacks then what can you call it? Total incompetence.








If that is the case and of course it is, this airline is left exposed to sinking deeper and deeper into perennial debts and losses.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#5985 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:19:59 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
Where's the Defender-In-Chief?
The PR Guru?

Or are the free flights and upgrades no more?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#5986 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:43:02 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
VituVingiSana wrote:
Where's the Defender-In-Chief?
The PR Guru?

Or are the free flights and upgrades no more?



He has disappeared into the woods! Waiting the dust to settle.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#5987 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:18:03 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Spikes wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


No serious expansion by KQ to be done any time soon. The delay in putting in place the right people is even messing up the future of the Airline.

Ngunze auctioned the planes in the name of turnaround. No plane should have left the fleet, there is enough demand and only the root cause of low uptake of passengers by KQ should have been addressed e.g. pricing including ticketing malpractices by staff and travel agents as identified in the forensic report, poor customer service, etc.

Angola was done long before he joined the board.




Which means all these actions of selling landing slot at Heathrow airport, Embakasi prime land, selling planes and leasing pilots were motivated by malice or poor business strategy aka priority.


Exactly, all those decisions were made without the necessary due care, diligence and interest of the Company.

The level of deliberations on key business decisions among the top management of KQ is totally absurd to say the least. Look at the Mckinsey contract executed by Alex and Ngunze for instance, if they did not receive kickbacks then what can you call it? Total incompetence.








If that is the case and of course it is, this airline is left exposed to sinking deeper and deeper into perennial debts and losses.

You irritate me soo much.. Wait for the half year
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
maka
#5988 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:21:26 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
@Obiero don't get irritated...
possunt quia posse videntur
Baratang
#5989 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:30:40 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 10/6/2009
Posts: 587
maka wrote:
@Obiero don't get irritated...

Being in Flight No KQ 616K is no joke with so much turbulence.smile
Jibabe
#5990 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:43:41 AM
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Joined: 6/25/2009
Posts: 41
Irritation is no panacea.Numbers can neither be cooked nor do they lie
Churchill once averred: the truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is....
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