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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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wukan wrote:Swenani wrote:kaka2za wrote:Anyone who has been there knows that:
1.The economy in Addis is growing fast due to heavy investment in infrastructure
2.Cost of living is very low compared with+254-I think food is expensive but alcohol is dirty cheap
3.Land is abundant and equitably distributed-Land belongs to government,they can take your one acre land in Nairobi and compensate you with an acre in Ruai-Shamba ni shamba
4.Basic human rights are a luxury esp to Oromia 5. Every other Ethiopia is looking for away out of Ethiopia apart from the politicians in the ruling party 6. Their education system is pathetic. 7. Their in country intelligence system is on point. 8. Their women are beautiful but most of them are dirty9.Their is no city planning/zoning Industrial zones exist in the same areas where the wealthy and poor live 10.Addis is a big slum only that the shanties are fenced by glashouses which dot all the major rds in Addis #8 Applies to most beautiful women even kenyan ones Dirty as in morality or dusty/uchafu? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Impunity wrote:wukan wrote:Swenani wrote:kaka2za wrote:Anyone who has been there knows that:
1.The economy in Addis is growing fast due to heavy investment in infrastructure
2.Cost of living is very low compared with+254-I think food is expensive but alcohol is dirty cheap
3.Land is abundant and equitably distributed-Land belongs to government,they can take your one acre land in Nairobi and compensate you with an acre in Ruai-Shamba ni shamba
4.Basic human rights are a luxury esp to Oromia 5. Every other Ethiopia is looking for away out of Ethiopia apart from the politicians in the ruling party 6. Their education system is pathetic. 7. Their in country intelligence system is on point. 8. Their women are beautiful but most of them are dirty9.Their is no city planning/zoning Industrial zones exist in the same areas where the wealthy and poor live 10.Addis is a big slum only that the shanties are fenced by glashouses which dot all the major rds in Addis #8 Applies to most beautiful women even kenyan ones Dirty as in morality or dusty/uchafu? uchafu,hio nyingine depends on your moral standing. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Aside from cheap labor and cheap electricity, I suspect that another reason Ethiopia is attracting a lot of manufacturing is that they are spending a lot on infrastructure. So investors see a a good future there. You need good infrastructure to move goods and information around cheaply. Kenya is investing in giving Ksh 90m to Mutahi Ngunyi to do his joke audit on NYS, and every memeber of some useless commision is being paid salaries higher than President Obama. And Uhuruto's travel and entertainment budget exceeds ksh 2 billion per year.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Girma Fistum wrote:Ethiopia recently announced it is to build another dam, named Koysha, after Gibe III, which is the largest of all Ethiopian dams became operational. The Gibe III dam which can generate 1,800 megawatts has faced obstruction challenges by international rights groups and NGOs but was completed with domestic finance to become operational only a few months ago and has now started generating power partially. Koysha = 2000MW "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Ethiopia declares a 6 month state of emergency after protesters attack foreign businesses including flower farms, factories, hotels etc. Many flower farms razed to the ground. Tourist hotels torched. 450 protesters killed. Pity Kenyan flower growers who "abused" Kenya and went to Ethiopia praising it's "business-friendliness". The grass is not always greener on the other side. Also, the greenness may be due to a leaking sewer. https://citizentv.co.ke/...es-flower-farms-144618/
 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Dangote's business also attacked.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sad......karibu Kenya where hakuna matata. Quote:Esmeralda Farms said its 10 million euro ($11.1m) investment went up in smoke this week in Bahir Dar city and that several other horticulture companies were also affected.
Remco Bergkamp, assistant manager at Esmeralda Farms in the Netherlands, told Al Jazeera that the company would probably leave Ethiopia, rather than rebuild the farm.
"The situation is not stable enough to run a business. You just don’t know where the country is headed," Bergkamp told Al Jazeera.
"The government sent security forces to protect the farm. Eventually the group of protesters grew so large that the soldiers were forced to flee and the property was torched," Bergkamp said.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Riots in Kenya happen every election year Business Daily wrote:The International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) latest statistical estimates indicate that Ethiopia’s gross domestic product (GDP) is forecast to grow from $61.62 billion in 2015 to $69.21 billion this year, narrowly beating Kenya’s output which is expected to rise from $63.39 billion to $69.17 billion over the same period.
“Ethiopia has experienced double-digit economic growth, averaging 10.8 per cent since 2005, which has mainly been underpinned by public-sector-led development,” the African Development Bank, the OECD Development Centre and the United Nations Development Programme say in the latest African Economic Outlook report.
Kenya’s GDP of $14.1 billion in 2000 was 71.6 per cent larger than Ethiopia’s $8.23 billion in the same year but the Horn of Africa nation has closed the economic gap in the last five years of robust growth.
The IMF’s GDP estimates are based on current market prices using exchange rates prevailing between July 22 and August 19. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:Riots in Kenya happen every election year
That could be the case (blame baba) but we only attack each other, not chasing away foreign investors and burning down their factories, investments. Ethiopia is kaput. No investor will want to venture there.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Riots in Kenya happen every election year
That could be the case (blame baba) but we only attack each other, not chasing away foreign investors and burning down their factories, investments. Ethiopia is kaput. No investor will want to venture there. Ethiopia is a powder keg ready to explode. I do not understand how the people in the oldest african christian civilisation (ethiopia and eritrea) allow their rulers to oppress them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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majimaji wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Riots in Kenya happen every election year That could be the case (blame baba) but we only attack each other, not chasing away foreign investors and burning down their factories, investments. Ethiopia is kaput. No investor will want to venture there. Ethiopia is a powder keg ready to explode. I do not understand how the people in the oldest african christian civilisation (ethiopia and eritrea) allow their rulers to oppress them. It would be fair to make mention of Prophet Muhammad pbuh interaction with one of the greatest kings of his time, one whose piety served as a greater source of prosperity for his people than any kind of wealth, privilege or power... The Abyssinia king (A.D.615-616) who would not tolerate injustice...The prophet permitted some of his followers to migrate to seek asylum in Abyssinia, he knew there was a king, Negus, a Christian, was a just ruler, one that would do no wrong to those that lived in his kingdom. His people sneaked out of Makkah in the darkness of the night and headed for the sea where two boats were to sail to Abyssinia... NOTE: Please do not turn this into a religious argument. I'm just going back to history to recognize former just kings of Ethiopia.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:majimaji wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Riots in Kenya happen every election year That could be the case (blame baba) but we only attack each other, not chasing away foreign investors and burning down their factories, investments. Ethiopia is kaput. No investor will want to venture there. Ethiopia is a powder keg ready to explode. I do not understand how the people in the oldest african christian civilisation (ethiopia and eritrea) allow their rulers to oppress them. It would be fair to make mention of Prophet Muhammad pbuh interaction with one of the greatest kings of his time, one whose piety served as a greater source of prosperity for his people than any kind of wealth, privilege or power... The prophet permitted some of his followers to migrate to seek asylum in Abyssinia, he knew there was a king, Negus, a Christian, was a just ruler, one that would do no wrong to those that lived in his kingdom. His people sneaked out of Makkah in the darkness of the night and headed for the sea where two boats were to sail to Abyssinia... for the king (there) would not tolerate injustice... NOTE: Please do not turn this into a religious argument. I'm just going back to history to recognize former just kings of Ethiopia.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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majimaji wrote:
Ethiopia is a powder keg ready to explode. I do not understand how the people in the oldest african christian civilisation (ethiopia and eritrea) allow their rulers to oppress them.
Civil rights are restricted and the security agencies are only too willing to crack heads. The situation in Eritrea is even worse where conscription is mandatory and can last for decades.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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There was this thread about democracy vs dictatorship in devpt Let's study... Another (disturbing)case is Rwanda How long will it hold?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Ok. The Oromo are the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia at about 38M people.Almost the population of Kenya Why would Addis be ignoring them?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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The problem of growing in economics and ignoring the social aspects.The same issue we have in Kenya.It doesn't matter how well your infrastructure programs are if you ignore the social fabric. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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PeterReborn wrote:The problem of growing in economics and ignoring the social aspects.The same issue we have in Kenya.It doesn't matter how well your infrastructure programs are if you ignore the social fabric.
i call it the idolatry of efficiency and progress. I see people talking about Singapore, Benevolent dictatorships e.t.c. Even Gadaffi was a benevolent dictator. You know what works? an open society! I think i once said that people need to differentiate a couple of things 1) Democracy 2) Modernity 3) Freedom 4) Prosperity They are not always related and some can occur on their own... You know what develops a society? PEOPLE not governments... PEOPLE... Gava just catalyses this development and societies that everyone contributes and feels a part of a great societies.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Lolest! wrote:Ok.
The Oromo are the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia at about 38M people.Almost the population of Kenya
Why would Addis be ignoring them? Why would the ruling Tigrinya wish to cede power? The access to cheap labour and full control over land ownership has worked in their favour.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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chemirocha wrote:majimaji wrote:
Ethiopia is a powder keg ready to explode. I do not understand how the people in the oldest african christian civilisation (ethiopia and eritrea) allow their rulers to oppress them.
Civil rights are restricted and the security agencies are only too willing to crack heads. The situation in Eritrea is even worse where conscription is mandatory and can last for decades.  It's only mandatory once you complete their high school equivalent and lasts for a year-I think it is their NYS equivalent of the 80's If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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