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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:I guess your question has been answered by my post #48A good man knows his role given a circumstance. And a good woman also knows her role given a circumstance. It is not about competition, but role taking that produces the best whole... in an equitable manner, not equal manner, coz male and female are not same.
I hope it is clearer now? My question alludes to the relativity of the whole matter - your answer is what YOU consider a good woman/man - it's clearer to me what you consider a good woman/man but unclear if there is a universal definition of such a person that all will agree with. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I guess your question has been answered by my post #48A good man knows his role given a circumstance. And a good woman also knows her role given a circumstance. It is not about competition, but role taking that produces the best whole... in an equitable manner, not equal manner, coz male and female are not same.
I hope it is clearer now? My question alludes to the relativity of the whole matter - your answer is what YOU consider a good woman/man - it's clearer to me what you consider a good woman/man but unclear if there is a universal definition of such a person that all will agree with. I believe we have "universal" definition of "good" in our English dictionaries. Definition good ɡo͝od/ adjective 1. to be desired or approved of."we live at peace with each other, which is good" synonyms: healthy, fine, sound, tip-top, hale and hearty, fit, robust, sturdy, strong, vigorous More 2. having the qualities required for a particular role. "the schools here are good", "this is a good month for planting seeds". synonyms: fine, superior, quality; 3. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil". "her father was a good man". (a). Showing kindness. ‘it was good of you to come’ (b). Commanding respect. ‘he was concerned with establishing and maintaining his good name’ (c). Belonging or relating to a high social class. ‘he comes from a good family’ synonyms: virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude; More 4. Valid or benefit or advantage to someone or something. (a). Valid. ‘the ticket is good for travel from May to September’ (b). "he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind" synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being; (c) well. "my mother could never cook this good"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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Kusadikika wrote:Teaching your children. People use this phrase very often and the assumption is that it is a good thing. What does it mean, to teach your children?? How would you do it?? Offering guidance and role modelling Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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githundi wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Teaching your children. People use this phrase very often and the assumption is that it is a good thing. What does it mean, to teach your children?? How would you do it?? Offering guidance and role modelling Also through positive or negative reinforcement of a child behaviour Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I guess your question has been answered by my post #48A good man knows his role given a circumstance. And a good woman also knows her role given a circumstance. It is not about competition, but role taking that produces the best whole... in an equitable manner, not equal manner, coz male and female are not same.
I hope it is clearer now? My question alludes to the relativity of the whole matter - your answer is what YOU consider a good woman/man - it's clearer to me what you consider a good woman/man but unclear if there is a universal definition of such a person that all will agree with. I believe we have "universal" definition of "good" in our English dictionaries. Definition good ɡo͝od/ adjective 1. to be desired or approved of."we live at peace with each other, which is good" synonyms: healthy, fine, sound, tip-top, hale and hearty, fit, robust, sturdy, strong, vigorous More 2. having the qualities required for a particular role. "the schools here are good", "this is a good month for planting seeds". synonyms: fine, superior, quality; 3. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil". "her father was a good man". (a). Showing kindness. ‘it was good of you to come’ (b). Commanding respect. ‘he was concerned with establishing and maintaining his good name’ (c). Belonging or relating to a high social class. ‘he comes from a good family’ synonyms: virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude; More 4. Valid or benefit or advantage to someone or something. (a). Valid. ‘the ticket is good for travel from May to September’ (b). "he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind" synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being; (c) well. "my mother could never cook this good" Yes... good is known. I think. We say God is good. Yet He commited what can only be classified as genocide during Noah's time.... but I digress. We kinda know what good is but a "good man". What are the attributes of a good man or a good woman for that matter. Are the same traits that earn a man the title of being a "good man" capable of earning a woman the title of being a "good woman"? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I guess your question has been answered by my post #48A good man knows his role given a circumstance. And a good woman also knows her role given a circumstance. It is not about competition, but role taking that produces the best whole... in an equitable manner, not equal manner, coz male and female are not same.
I hope it is clearer now? My question alludes to the relativity of the whole matter - your answer is what YOU consider a good woman/man - it's clearer to me what you consider a good woman/man but unclear if there is a universal definition of such a person that all will agree with. I believe we have "universal" definition of "good" in our English dictionaries. Definition good ɡo͝od/ adjective 1. to be desired or approved of."we live at peace with each other, which is good" synonyms: healthy, fine, sound, tip-top, hale and hearty, fit, robust, sturdy, strong, vigorous More 2. having the qualities required for a particular role. "the schools here are good", "this is a good month for planting seeds". synonyms: fine, superior, quality; 3. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil". "her father was a good man". (a). Showing kindness. ‘it was good of you to come’ (b). Commanding respect. ‘he was concerned with establishing and maintaining his good name’ (c). Belonging or relating to a high social class. ‘he comes from a good family’ synonyms: virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude; More 4. Valid or benefit or advantage to someone or something. (a). Valid. ‘the ticket is good for travel from May to September’ (b). "he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind" synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being; (c) well. "my mother could never cook this good" Yes... good is known. I think. We say God is good. Yet He commited what can only be classified as genocide during Noah's time.... but I digress. We kinda know what good is but a "good man". What are the attributes of a good man or a good woman for that matter. Are the same traits that earn a man the title of being a "good man" capable of earning a woman the title of being a "good woman"? In urban culture you are not a good man if you don't take up half of all household chores. And cry.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I guess your question has been answered by my post #48A good man knows his role given a circumstance. And a good woman also knows her role given a circumstance. It is not about competition, but role taking that produces the best whole... in an equitable manner, not equal manner, coz male and female are not same.
I hope it is clearer now? My question alludes to the relativity of the whole matter - your answer is what YOU consider a good woman/man - it's clearer to me what you consider a good woman/man but unclear if there is a universal definition of such a person that all will agree with. I believe we have "universal" definition of "good" in our English dictionaries. Definition good ɡo͝od/ adjective 1. to be desired or approved of."we live at peace with each other, which is good" synonyms: healthy, fine, sound, tip-top, hale and hearty, fit, robust, sturdy, strong, vigorous More 2. having the qualities required for a particular role. "the schools here are good", "this is a good month for planting seeds". synonyms: fine, superior, quality; 3. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil". "her father was a good man". (a). Showing kindness. ‘it was good of you to come’ (b). Commanding respect. ‘he was concerned with establishing and maintaining his good name’ (c). Belonging or relating to a high social class. ‘he comes from a good family’ synonyms: virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude; More 4. Valid or benefit or advantage to someone or something. (a). Valid. ‘the ticket is good for travel from May to September’ (b). "he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind" synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being; (c) well. "my mother could never cook this good" Yes... good is known. I think. We say God is good. Yet He commited what can only be classified as genocide during Noah's time.... but I digress. We kinda know what good is but a "good man". What are the attributes of a good man or a good woman for that matter. Are the same traits that earn a man the title of being a "good man" capable of earning a woman the title of being a "good woman"? In urban culture you are not a good man if you don't take up half of all household chores. And cry. And your wife not "good woman" if she does not pay half the rent, and can smack that rat if she finds it at the store... and holds her waist as she asks you if you've fed the baby with formula milk.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Exactly.... it's all relative. Why do others think they are "right" more than others? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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I think @alphs point is quite clear. I am in agreement. Balance requires complimentary cooperation not 'equality'. Evidence of this is everywhere in nature.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Complimentarity and equality aren't mutually exclusive.
Complimentarity alone is too vague. It can be about unhealthy relationships, it can be about unfair domination...
For me, it's a matter of choice how a culture will answer the question of who a good woman or man is.
Dictionaries don't give meanings, they describe the meanings inferred from usage. So a dictionary meaning isn't as authoritative as some here would claim.
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