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mnandii wrote:maka wrote:instinct wrote:snipermnoma wrote:
With interest rates declining is it not a sign that the bottom for stocks is nigh?
That's an interesting point...no one has seen that angle yet. stock market performance and interest rates have an inverse relationship. when bonds hit 7% money will chase equities. except bank stocks of course  Bonds are not hitting 7% any time soon...we have a long way to go...if I can get a 10 year paper at 13.8% levels,then tuko mbali  Those relationships work until they STOP! What I mean is that it is not reliable. How often do these relationships stop? They seem to have been reliable pretty consistently.
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100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets. September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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hisah wrote:100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets.
September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. everything is boring i should go for holiday "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets.
September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. everything is boring i should go for holiday Posts drought 
Quiet markets are usually a strong signal for large volatility ahead. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets.
September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. everything is boring i should go for holiday That is the way it should be - super boring. See the quote below. "Investing should be more like watching paint dry or watching grass grow. If you want excitement, take $800 and go to Las Vegas." - Paul Samuelson Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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hisah wrote:mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets.
September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. everything is boring i should go for holiday Posts drought
Quiet markets are usually a strong signal for large volatility ahead. 3000 ain't far fetched at all. It didn't look possible just a few months Ago The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Aguytrying wrote:hisah wrote:mlennyma wrote:hisah wrote:100 points on the bounce since stalling at 3123 as NSE20 closed today at 3223. BoE meets this Thursday so I'll be keeping an eye on FTSE. The big one is next Wednesday when US Fed meets.
September and October look poised to be quite volatile. Let's see how the markets will play out. everything is boring i should go for holiday Posts drought
Quiet markets are usually a strong signal for large volatility ahead. 3000 ain't far fetched at all. It didn't look possible just a few months Ago We have had our lowest, things have turned for the better!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:A Socionomic View of AccidentsAt market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous. The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety. The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents. ................................................. In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents. Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market. Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015 Light aircraft crashes in Ngonglink Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi linkConventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:A Socionomic View of AccidentsAt market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous. The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety. The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents. ................................................. In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents. Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market. Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015 Light aircraft crashes in Ngonglink Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi link  socioeconomics is really panning out
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snipermnoma wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:A Socionomic View of AccidentsAt market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous. The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety. The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents. ................................................. In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents. Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market. Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015 Light aircraft crashes in Ngonglink Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi link socioeconomics is really panning out Light aircraft are not flown by teams For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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All signs point to an action packed Q4 both locally and internationally. Locally: 1. Our CB has been awfully quiet on the interest caps. Meaning they can't figure out how to navigate smoothly out of our current situation. 2. Much as the cbr is the presumed base rate it will lead to a disconnect in the money markets. 3. Govt is being egged on to float a second eurobond. 4. Weak banks will be culled in due time. Q4 results should be telling. Big picture will be clear at FY 2017. 5. Failure to float the eurobond means huge domestic borrowing. Those issues should determine whether the 3000 mark holds to close out the year or it fails to dyke the waves. As far as the international scene is concerned, it may close the year in the same fashion it opened it. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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winmak wrote:snipermnoma wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:A Socionomic View of AccidentsAt market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous. The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety. The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents. ................................................. In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents. Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market. Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015 Light aircraft crashes in Ngonglink Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi link socioeconomics is really panning out Light aircraft are not flown by teams SOCIONOMICS! All aircrafts depend on teamwork e.g the engineers, pilots, control tower etc. They have to coordinate for successful flying. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Markets are at key junctures. Capitalize on that -- or step out of the way.www.elliottwave.com Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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 How to Win Against the Dangerous “Herding Impulse”linkConventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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mnandii wrote:winmak wrote:snipermnoma wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:mnandii wrote:A Socionomic View of AccidentsAt market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous. The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety. The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents. ................................................. In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents. Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market. Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015 Light aircraft crashes in Ngonglink Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi link socioeconomics is really panning out Light aircraft are not flown by teams SOCIONOMICS! All aircrafts depend on teamwork e.g the engineers, pilots, control tower etc. They have to coordinate for successful flying. KQ bird strike, tyre burst disrupt multiple flightslinkConventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,703 Location: NAIROBI
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Safaricom AND EABL are the only counters not obeying the bear run and effects of interest rates cap. Kenya re follows the two. The other counters its a blood bath Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,703 Location: NAIROBI
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With stock market nearly 50% down this year and yields on government securities falling, real estate growth nearly grinding to a halt coz of low sales and poor rental yields I wonder what type of results pension schemes will report next year. Avenues of investment have all being killed Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson wrote:With stock market nearly 50% down this year and yields on government securities falling, real estate growth nearly grinding to a halt coz of low sales and poor rental yields I wonder what type of results pension schemes will report next year.
Avenues of investment have all being killed Where are you getting the 50% drawdown from? Which index?$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Ericsson wrote:With stock market nearly 50% down this year and yields on government securities falling, real estate growth nearly grinding to a halt coz of low sales and poor rental yields I wonder what type of results pension schemes will report next year.
Avenues of investment have all being killed This is the point we start thinking hard and come up with investment ideas that that ate out of the ordinary, like rearing beef cattle for export, or manufacturing cars...
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instinct wrote:Ericsson wrote:With stock market nearly 50% down this year and yields on government securities falling, real estate growth nearly grinding to a halt coz of low sales and poor rental yields I wonder what type of results pension schemes will report next year.
Avenues of investment have all being killed This is the point we start thinking hard and come up with investment ideas that that ate out of the ordinary, like rearing beef cattle for export, or manufacturing cars... Guys need to start using factors of production effectively for the economy to grow, otherwise we will be doomed as a country. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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