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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#5601 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:22:51 AM
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Location: nairobi
The Great wrote:
NBK stands to gain most if jetlink winds down.

Word at the hangar is that Fly 540 is troubled too by the JJ onslaught
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
VituVingiSana
#5602 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:02:07 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ngunze is killing KQ by his lack of media engagement.. He doesn't block any negative press.. That is a major flaw to his leadership. He must learn to create hype similar to Dr Mwangi of Equity who keeps launching failed projects but does it with pizzazz


Flip Flop, Flip Flop....


He is good, he is bad, he is good, he is bad...

Uko wapi?

He is my close friend so I cannot fault him at will.. But I asked him personally to join social media and he refused.. But he does visit wazua atleast

As we have long suspected... There's more to this relationship than as an "investor" when freebies worth more than the investment is involved.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
muandiwambeu
#5603 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:06:44 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ngunze is killing KQ by his lack of media engagement.. He doesn't block any negative press.. That is a major flaw to his leadership. He must learn to create hype similar to Dr Mwangi of Equity who keeps launching failed projects but does it with pizzazz


Flip Flop, Flip Flop....


He is good, he is bad, he is good, he is bad...

Uko wapi?

He is my close friend so I cannot fault him at will.. But I asked him personally to join social media and he refused.. But he does visit wazua atleast


Thats good enough.
All the best!

birds of feather flock together. tym will tell
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#5604 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:07:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ngunze is killing KQ by his lack of media engagement.. He doesn't block any negative press.. That is a major flaw to his leadership. He must learn to create hype similar to Dr Mwangi of Equity who keeps launching failed projects but does it with pizzazz


Flip Flop, Flip Flop....


He is good, he is bad, he is good, he is bad...

Uko wapi?

He is my close friend so I cannot fault him at will.. But I asked him personally to join social media and he refused.. But he does visit wazua atleast


Thats good enough.
All the best!

birds of feather flock together. tym will tell

We wait patiently.. The AGM in a few days time shall be a must attend for any serious KQ investor
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Afroblk
#5605 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:35:16 AM
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Joined: 3/3/2010
Posts: 79
I usually don't do this but if you have some extra cash that you don't mind setting aside (meaning you're not gonna lose sleep over it) buy some KQ shares and let it sit for a while. I'm not getting paid to say this nor I'm I courting the directors. KQ is my toy, I want to see what it's capable of, at todays price of 3.90 I would acquire a million if I had it, but I'll just acquire as much as I can. What's your toy?
Knowledge is contagious...Infect truth!
obiero
#5606 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:33:31 AM
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Location: nairobi
Afroblk wrote:
I usually don't do this but if you have some extra cash that you don't mind setting aside (meaning you're not gonna lose sleep over it) buy some KQ shares and let it sit for a while. I'm not getting paid to say this nor I'm I courting the directors. KQ is my toy, I want to see what it's capable of, at todays price of 3.90 I would acquire a million if I had it, but I'll just acquire as much as I can. What's your toy?

It's soo perplexing that people don't see the long term viability of KQ
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
VituVingiSana
#5607 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:52:49 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Afroblk wrote:
I usually don't do this but if you have some extra cash that you don't mind setting aside (meaning you're not gonna lose sleep over it) buy some KQ shares and let it sit for a while. I'm not getting paid to say this nor I'm I courting the directors. KQ is my toy, I want to see what it's capable of, at todays price of 3.90 I would acquire a million if I had it, but I'll just acquire as much as I can. What's your toy?

It's soo perplexing that people don't see the long term viability of KQ

I would too if I was getting free flights & free upgrades on KQ flights.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#5608 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:00:38 PM
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Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
KQ's Auditor: "Without qualifying our opinion, we draw attention to Note 2(e) in the consolidated financial statements which indicate that the Group incurred a net loss of KShs 26,225 million during the year ended 31 March 2016 (2015 – Net loss of KShs 25,743 million) and, as of that date, the Group’s current liabilities exceeded its current assets by KShs 43,766 million (2015 – KShs 39,588 million) and the Group’s total liabilities exceed its total assets by KShs 35,667 million (2015 - KShs 5,963 million). These conditions along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(e), indicate the existence of a material uncertainty that may cast doubt about the Group’s ability to continue as a going concern."
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#5609 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:37:57 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ's Auditor: "Without qualifying our opinion, we draw attention to Note 2(e) in the consolidated financial statements which indicate that the Group incurred a net loss of KShs 26,225 million during the year ended 31 March 2016 (2015 – Net loss of KShs 25,743 million) and, as of that date, the Group’s current liabilities exceeded its current assets by KShs 43,766 million (2015 – KShs 39,588 million) and the Group’s total liabilities exceed its total assets by KShs 35,667 million (2015 - KShs 5,963 million). These conditions along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(e), indicate the existence of a material uncertainty that may cast doubt about the Group’s ability to continue as a going concern."

Old news..
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
researchfirst
#5610 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:39:36 PM
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Joined: 2/24/2015
Posts: 154
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ's Auditor: "Without qualifying our opinion, we draw attention to Note 2(e) in the consolidated financial statements which indicate that the Group incurred a net loss of KShs 26,225 million during the year ended 31 March 2016 (2015 – Net loss of KShs 25,743 million) and, as of that date, the Group’s current liabilities exceeded its current assets by KShs 43,766 million (2015 – KShs 39,588 million) and the Group’s total liabilities exceed its total assets by KShs 35,667 million (2015 - KShs 5,963 million). These conditions along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(e), indicate the existence of a material uncertainty that may cast doubt about the Group’s ability to continue as a going concern."


I wouldn't read too much into that sentence. Without getting into too much detail for this forum, that is a boilerplate Emphasis of Matter paragraph as required by IAS 570 for the auditor to use a Going Concern assumption without giving a qualified or adverse opinion. It means the auditor is satisfied with the note disclosure. It does not imply a conclusion as to the future of the company. It's just an auditing rule.

That said, I personally have no shares in KQ nor do I plan to acquire any. Speculators may or may not do well with KQ, but as a long-term investor, I don't want to go anywhere near it!


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