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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#5571 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:41:57 PM
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Location: Nairobi
http://www.businessdaily...74632-d18sff/index.html

"The airline recognised a Sh1.4 billion loss in the year ended March 2016, with the balance of Sh2.5 billion expected to filter through over the coming years as the contracts roll on in the medium term."

"KQ chief executive Mbuvi Ngunze said at the time of signing the lease contracts that they would reduce fleet costs by Sh8.4 billion annually, indicating that sub-leasing at a loss (which was not disclosed at the time) represents a lesser evil compared to maintaining a bloated fleet."

"KQ did not indicate whether the upcoming sub-leasing deals with the same carriers will also leave it underwater or whether it will break even or book a profit."

"This saw its net worth worsen to negative Sh35.6 billion from negative Sh5.9 billion over the same period."
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ArrestedDev
#5572 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:01:13 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/539550-3374632-d18sff/index.html

"The airline recognised a Sh1.4 billion loss in the year ended March 2016, with the balance of Sh2.5 billion expected to filter through over the coming years as the contracts roll on in the medium term."

"KQ chief executive Mbuvi Ngunze said at the time of signing the lease contracts that they would reduce fleet costs by Sh8.4 billion annually, indicating that sub-leasing at a loss (which was not disclosed at the time) represents a lesser evil compared to maintaining a bloated fleet."

"KQ did not indicate whether the upcoming sub-leasing deals with the same carriers will also leave it underwater or whether it will break even or book a profit."

"This saw its net worth worsen to negative Sh35.6 billion from negative Sh5.9 billion over the same period."


Ngunze with his team of incompetent managers should be shown the door.These aircrafts should not have left the fleet in the first place. I hope the Oman Air runway collision with a stationary aircraft in Tehran did not involve a KQ B787. The upcoming AGM should be used to nail these individuals. KQ should have a dedicated aircraft leasing department staffed with people who are subject matter experts. Leasing and sub-leasing of planes should not be left to directors and the procurement department.

@maka - Are there any other upcoming sub-leasing deals? Which routes are being terminated as the article alleges?
Spikes
#5573 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:46:05 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
The Great wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Another blow to KQ after plane leasing deal unleashes Kshs 4B loss!

Sub 3bob in the offing. Sit tight. @Obiero umepatikana . No escape route. Accept multiple haircuts and move on.#Business Daily Africa@


Sub 3 is still too expensive, sub-2 is the thing!

2/- is 2/- too much for KQ.

Why are we up 5.8% today?? All clear for take off. The media has it in for KQ.. Bringing up info in last year's annual report released month's ago at this time

Now at 7.5% up.. This plane is on the runway

As of 1pm, according to myStocks, KQ has traded 2,700 shares worth KES 9,830 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Not 9,800 shares but KES 9,830/-! So yes, KQ is up 7.5% on vapor volumes!

TPSEA, much smaller in revenue than KQ has traded KES 199,000 worth.

We are on the runway with vapor volumes because serious players are now on the floor


What will it take for you to accept your haircut(or is it head skinning)?

Suspension



@obiero please do explaining. We need more knowledge on this issue. When a company is suspended from trading, does it come like a thief or is it a warning notice given by CMA for investors to exit if they wish to do so? What exactly happens?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#5574 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:34:22 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
The Great wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Another blow to KQ after plane leasing deal unleashes Kshs 4B loss!

Sub 3bob in the offing. Sit tight. @Obiero umepatikana . No escape route. Accept multiple haircuts and move on.#Business Daily Africa@


Sub 3 is still too expensive, sub-2 is the thing!

2/- is 2/- too much for KQ.

Why are we up 5.8% today?? All clear for take off. The media has it in for KQ.. Bringing up info in last year's annual report released month's ago at this time

Now at 7.5% up.. This plane is on the runway

As of 1pm, according to myStocks, KQ has traded 2,700 shares worth KES 9,830 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Not 9,800 shares but KES 9,830/-! So yes, KQ is up 7.5% on vapor volumes!

TPSEA, much smaller in revenue than KQ has traded KES 199,000 worth.

We are on the runway with vapor volumes because serious players are now on the floor


What will it take for you to accept your haircut(or is it head skinning)?

Suspension



@obiero please do explaining. We need more knowledge on this issue. When a company is suspended from trading, does it come like a thief or is it a warning notice given by CMA for investors to exit if they wish to do so? What exactly happens?

It comes like a thief unless you have Intel.. The matter was discussed at some point but shelved courtesy of one Dr who reps GOK.. It could have reoccured depending on H1 since the accusations will be that the share continues to suck in traders to loss positions with 4 straight years of negative earnings, but luckily KQ now has an Operating Profit..
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
muandiwambeu
#5575 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:23:59 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
The Great wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Another blow to KQ after plane leasing deal unleashes Kshs 4B loss!

Sub 3bob in the offing. Sit tight. @Obiero umepatikana . No escape route. Accept multiple haircuts and move on.#Business Daily Africa@


Sub 3 is still too expensive, sub-2 is the thing!

2/- is 2/- too much for KQ.

Why are we up 5.8% today?? All clear for take off. The media has it in for KQ.. Bringing up info in last year's annual report released month's ago at this time

Now at 7.5% up.. This plane is on the runway

As of 1pm, according to myStocks, KQ has traded 2,700 shares worth KES 9,830 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Not 9,800 shares but KES 9,830/-! So yes, KQ is up 7.5% on vapor volumes!

TPSEA, much smaller in revenue than KQ has traded KES 199,000 worth.

We are on the runway with vapor volumes because serious players are now on the floor


What will it take for you to accept your haircut(or is it head skinning)?

Suspension



@obiero please do explaining. We need more knowledge on this issue. When a company is suspended from trading, does it come like a thief or is it a warning notice given by CMA for investors to exit if they wish to do so? What exactly happens?

It comes like a thief unless you have Intel.. The matter was discussed at some point but shelved courtesy's of one Dr who reps GOK.. It could have reoccured depending on H1 since the accusations will be that the share continues to suck in traders to loss positions with 4 straight years of negative earnings, but luckily KQ now has an Operating Profit..

@obiero pulls another one for the unsuspecting wanjiku. capital preservation mode in top gear. how about posting your portfolio here we see how you manages to do it.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Impunity
#5576 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:29:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
The Great wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Another blow to KQ after plane leasing deal unleashes Kshs 4B loss!

Sub 3bob in the offing. Sit tight. @Obiero umepatikana . No escape route. Accept multiple haircuts and move on.#Business Daily Africa@


Sub 3 is still too expensive, sub-2 is the thing!

2/- is 2/- too much for KQ.

Why are we up 5.8% today?? All clear for take off. The media has it in for KQ.. Bringing up info in last year's annual report released month's ago at this time

Now at 7.5% up.. This plane is on the runway

As of 1pm, according to myStocks, KQ has traded 2,700 shares worth KES 9,830 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Not 9,800 shares but KES 9,830/-! So yes, KQ is up 7.5% on vapor volumes!

TPSEA, much smaller in revenue than KQ has traded KES 199,000 worth.

We are on the runway with vapor volumes because serious players are now on the floor


What will it take for you to accept your haircut(or is it head skinning)?

Suspension



@obiero please do explaining. We need more knowledge on this issue. When a company is suspended from trading, does it come like a thief or is it a warning notice given by CMA for investors to exit if they wish to do so? What exactly happens?

It comes like a thief unless you have Intel.. The matter was discussed at some point but shelved courtesy's of one Dr who reps GOK.. It could have reoccured depending on H1 since the accusations will be that the share continues to suck in traders to loss positions with 4 straight years of negative earnings, but luckily KQ now has an Operating Profit..

@obiero pulls another one for the unsuspecting wanjiku. capital preservation mode in top gear. how about posting your portfolio here we see how you manages to do it.


Pump and dump.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5577 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:32:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
ArrestedDev
#5578 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:16:46 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:


I alluded to suspension sometimes here but you brushed off. The half year results will be worse than your projection.
Spikes
#5579 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2016 6:14:54 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:


I alluded to suspension sometimes here but you brushed off. The half year results will be worse than your projection.

Applause Applause Applause
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#5580 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2016 9:25:59 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Now that KQ might be going to States soon guess where they will be getting the plane or 2 from?
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