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Impunity
#71 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:37:18 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Siringi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The quality of leadership in Africa is perplexing. Kenya for instance is a country where 97% of population is below 65yrs, Over 50% below 18yrs, life expectancy is 59 yr.

Yet a man aged 86 yrs led his tribe to statehouse on 9 August 2016 then died peacefully in his sleep barely 20 days later.

How does a man with one foot in the grave lead his grandchildren, great grandchildren and get to determine their future?

Other examples abound. A certain Governor has been in hospital 3 yrs out of the 4 of his term so far. He leads his county from his hospital bed as his MCAs scram and fight to take advantage of the leadership vacuum. Why can't he just step down?

Let us not go to Zimbabwe where a similarly youthful population is led by a barely conscious 92 year old. An old man who is not in control of his bodily functions leading his great great grandchildren.

Wonders of African leadership!


Ouch that hurts Sad


And USA with all those great minds managed to vote for George Bush Jnr who almost started the 3rd World War.


They are going to vote for @Trump in November!

Laughing out loudly The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing.


Even the people who claims to be very sharp could not get a new candidate for the presidents except the wife of a former president!?
Nashangwazanga sana.

Even electing a son/daughter of a past president within a century baffles me.
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kaka2za
#72 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:29:01 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Wah, how a thread can mutate.
Unaangalia last post halafu unaangalia the title unafikiria umefungua wrong thread

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Haiya! Kumbe this thread was about Ntimama!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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masukuma
#73 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:28:42 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Siringi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The quality of leadership in Africa is perplexing. Kenya for instance is a country where 97% of population is below 65yrs, Over 50% below 18yrs, life expectancy is 59 yr.

Yet a man aged 86 yrs led his tribe to statehouse on 9 August 2016 then died peacefully in his sleep barely 20 days later.

How does a man with one foot in the grave lead his grandchildren, great grandchildren and get to determine their future?

Other examples abound. A certain Governor has been in hospital 3 yrs out of the 4 of his term so far. He leads his county from his hospital bed as his MCAs scram and fight to take advantage of the leadership vacuum. Why can't he just step down?

Let us not go to Zimbabwe where a similarly youthful population is led by a barely conscious 92 year old. An old man who is not in control of his bodily functions leading his great great grandchildren.

Wonders of African leadership!


Ouch that hurts Sad


And USA with all those great minds managed to vote for George Bush Jnr who almost started the 3rd World War.


They are going to vote for @Trump in November!

Laughing out loudly The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing.


Even the people who claims to be very sharp could not get a new candidate for the presidents except the wife of a former president!?
Nashangwazanga sana.

Even electing a son/daughter of a past president within a century baffles me.

why?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Kaigangio
#74 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:48:18 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Siringi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The quality of leadership in Africa is perplexing. Kenya for instance is a country where 97% of population is below 65yrs, Over 50% below 18yrs, life expectancy is 59 yr.

Yet a man aged 86 yrs led his tribe to statehouse on 9 August 2016 then died peacefully in his sleep barely 20 days later.

How does a man with one foot in the grave lead his grandchildren, great grandchildren and get to determine their future?

Other examples abound. A certain Governor has been in hospital 3 yrs out of the 4 of his term so far. He leads his county from his hospital bed as his MCAs scram and fight to take advantage of the leadership vacuum. Why can't he just step down?

Let us not go to Zimbabwe where a similarly youthful population is led by a barely conscious 92 year old. An old man who is not in control of his bodily functions leading his great great grandchildren.

Wonders of African leadership!


Ouch that hurts Sad


And USA with all those great minds managed to vote for George Bush Jnr who almost started the 3rd World War.


They are going to vote for @Trump in November!

Laughing out loudly The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing.


Even the people who claims to be very sharp could not get a new candidate for the presidents except the wife of a former president!?
Nashangwazanga sana.

Even electing a son/daughter of a past president within a century baffles me.

why?

Ati because that happens mostly in Africa...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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washiku
#75 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:42:30 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Wah, how a thread can mutate.
Unaangalia last post halafu unaangalia the title unafikiria umefungua wrong thread


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly By the way I did exactly that. I wondered what is happening.
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Impunity
#76 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:56:23 PM
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Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Siringi wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The quality of leadership in Africa is perplexing. Kenya for instance is a country where 97% of population is below 65yrs, Over 50% below 18yrs, life expectancy is 59 yr.

Yet a man aged 86 yrs led his tribe to statehouse on 9 August 2016 then died peacefully in his sleep barely 20 days later.

How does a man with one foot in the grave lead his grandchildren, great grandchildren and get to determine their future?

Other examples abound. A certain Governor has been in hospital 3 yrs out of the 4 of his term so far. He leads his county from his hospital bed as his MCAs scram and fight to take advantage of the leadership vacuum. Why can't he just step down?

Let us not go to Zimbabwe where a similarly youthful population is led by a barely conscious 92 year old. An old man who is not in control of his bodily functions leading his great great grandchildren.

Wonders of African leadership!


Ouch that hurts Sad


And USA with all those great minds managed to vote for George Bush Jnr who almost started the 3rd World War.


They are going to vote for @Trump in November!

Laughing out loudly The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing.


Even the people who claims to be very sharp could not get a new candidate for the presidents except the wife of a former president!?
Nashangwazanga sana.

Even electing a son/daughter of a past president within a century baffles me.

why?


Because that will mean that we can't get a leader in 40 million (.ke) or 250 million (usa) residents other than from the past president family.

Should Americans elect Hillary ROdiham in November polls,a wife of the past and leaving president Bill Clinton,they will lose the remaining little respect we Africans still hold for them.

Yaani they elect the wife of a former president and yet they want to call our @Mugabe a dinosaur for staying long in power!!!!

Unimaginable.
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Alba
#77 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:10:28 PM
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Baratang wrote:

@Alba, America has been a democracy since 1776 when they got their independence, that is 240 years ago. Why compare us to them knowing far too well that we are only 53 years since independence.


There are two problems with your statement:
1. We don't have to wait 240 years if there are good examples we can learn from now. I had a secondary school teacher who told us: "Experience teaches fools".
This means if we wait to learn from 240 years of experience instead of learning from present examples then we are fools.

2. Kenya is 50 years old now. I am certain that by the time America was 50 years old, they were a more mature democracy than we are now.

So your statement is lame on two counts.
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Alba
#78 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:15:23 PM
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kaka2za wrote:

The supreme Court and Congress failed to stop Bush from invading Iraq on flimsy grounds. The consequences are sharp rise in global terrorism which will escalate if Trump triumphs


True
Because Bush lied to the American people and to congress that Saddam had chemical weapons. Americans did not just blindly follow Bush into Iraq. They really thought Saddam had chemical weapons. So Americans thought it was in their best interests to remove Saddam. They thought the world would be peaceful without Saddam. And Americans were scared senseless after 9-11 happened.
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Alba
#79 Posted : Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:29:38 PM
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sparkly wrote:


I am not specifically referring to @Alba but me thinks that some people are brainwashed into thinking that the US is a beacon of democracy.

I once watched Kagame's press briefing which changed my perspective.
An American journalist confronted him about abuse of human rights and lack of democratic space in Rwanda.

He answered "Rwandan parliament is 54℅ women, what is the ℅ of women in your parliament back home? What makes you think you can lecture us on human rights when we are way ahead of you in empowering our women and youth?"

with time people will realise that the US is tyranny of a few ruling above many who think they are exercising their absolute rights.


But having a parliament with 54% women does not make Rwanda any better.

I will leave Rwanda aside and focus on Kenya. Our own CJ has described us as a nation run by bandits. If you criticize the government you risk being killed. Mass murderers never face the law. Public officials who loot millions get away with it. People who don't pay taxes get away with it. The cities are overcrowded, poorly planned. Constant power outages. Massive unemployment, flooding, insane traffic, 60% youth unemployment, insecurity, terrorism, porous borders, rampant tribalism, rampant examination leakage, poor schools, bad roads, high rate of road accidents crumbling or non-existent infrastructure, massive budget deficits, high interest rates, massive corruption at every level, ...........

And after all this people want to point a finger at the USA eti they are electing Trump?

Maybe Americans feel that they have the luxury of electing Trump because he will not ruin what they already have. I mean lets face it, Bush ruined Iraq but America is not really affected. So Americans don't really care about what Bush did because the country is strong enough to absorb the shocks.

But as I stated above, Americans are voting Trump because they think he will address some of the most pressing issues they have .e.g. immigration and islamization.

So we need to stop comparing ourselves with America. Its like a sick person who never sees a doctor pointing to a healthy person saying: "well if he never sees a doctor then neither am I".............
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murchr
#80 Posted : Monday, September 12, 2016 10:53:44 PM
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