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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November!  The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November! The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want. The supreme Court and Congress failed to stop Bush from invading Iraq on flimsy grounds. The consequences are sharp rise in global terrorism which will escalate if Trump triumphs Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2009 Posts: 587
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Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November! The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want. @Alba, America has been a democracy since 1776 when they got their independence, that is 240 years ago. Why compare us to them knowing far too well that we are only 53 years since independence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Baratang wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November! The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want. @Alba, America has been a democracy since 1776 when they got their independence, that is 240 years ago. Why compare us to them knowing far too well that we are only 53 years since independence. I am not specifically referring to @Alba but me thinks that some people are brainwashed into thinking that the US is a beacon of democracy. I once watched Kagame's press briefing which changed my perspective. An American journalist confronted him about abuse of human rights and lack of democratic space in Rwanda. He answered "Rwandan parliament is 54℅ women, what is the ℅ of women in your parliament back home? What makes you think you can lecture us on human rights when we are way ahead of you in empowering our women and youth?" with time people will realise that the US is tyranny of a few ruling above many who think they are exercising their absolute rights. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Being Wealthy (High Standards of Living), Democracy, Modernity, Freedom are not always on the same side! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Baratang wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November! The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want. @Alba, America has been a democracy since 1776 when they got their independence, that is 240 years ago. Why compare us to them knowing far too well that we are only 53 years since independence. Baratang with all due respect basing periods from independence to the current status of civilization as a measure of how politically mature a country is, is just out rightly flat wrong. Civility maturity starts with the individuals heart. Kenya can be 1000 yrs after independence and same stupidity goes on. Good example: Ethiopia ,these guys have never been colonised, we should expect them to be mature politically and most civilized, are they? They brutalize their citizens year after year.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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I have always wondered why "years of independence" is used as a yardstick for anything other than self determination... who nominated it as a yard stick for development? we wanted to be INDEPENDENT... to figure it out on our own. independence has nothing to do with development but rather self determination (or the illusion there of). All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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sparkly wrote:Baratang wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:They are going to vote for @Trump in November! The fact that they have nominated him is more than perplexing, and to think that come november the choice is either him or the former president's wife makes it even more more more perplexing. Americans are voting for Trump in large part because: Some think he is going block Mexicans from coming to "take their jobs". Some think he will ban muslims thus make the country safer. etc etc. These are concerns among a large segment of the populace. And he has hoodwinked many. Unfortunately the democrats did not offer a strong candidate. One thing about Americans is that they learn from their mistakes. So if Trump does'nt deliver, he will be out in 4 years and the republican party will take a beating at the next poll. Kenya never seems to learn anything. We keep voting the same corrupt ruling class. A second aspect of America is that the system has checks and balances. The presidency, congress and the supreme court are on equal footing. So Trump will be kept in check. In Kenya we have nothing but impunity. Our leaders can do anything they want. @Alba, America has been a democracy since 1776 when they got their independence, that is 240 years ago. Why compare us to them knowing far too well that we are only 53 years since independence. I am not specifically referring to @Alba but me thinks that some people are brainwashed into thinking that the US is a beacon of democracy. I once watched Kagame's press briefing which changed my perspective. An American journalist confronted him about abuse of human rights and lack of democratic space in Rwanda. He answered "Rwandan parliament is 54℅ women, what is the ℅ of women in your parliament back home? What makes you think you can lecture us on human rights when we are way ahead of you in empowering our women and youth?" with time people will realise that the US is tyranny of a few ruling above many who think they are exercising their absolute rights. Western based yardsticks will always mean we're behind. They will now say countries without gay rights have a low score of human rights
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Wah, how a thread can mutate.
Unaangalia last post halafu unaangalia the title unafikiria umefungua wrong thread
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