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mlennyma
#61 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:30:17 PM
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researchfirst wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sikupata dividend. did you get?


Book closure for this year's dividend is 3 October, payable on 31 October. Or are you talking about unclaimed dividends from way back?

there was the 1bob dividend after the long drought
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researchfirst
#62 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:07:39 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
researchfirst wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sikupata dividend. did you get?


Book closure for this year's dividend is 3 October, payable on 31 October. Or are you talking about unclaimed dividends from way back?

there was the 1bob dividend after the long drought


That is the one I am talking about. End of next month.
Magnate
#63 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:38:44 PM
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Revaluate 2 rivers project
book a 5.1bn gain from the revaluation
http://www.businessdaily...1852-9qftupz/index.html
Claim shares are undervalued
Change rules allowing shares buybacks
then what next.....
Buy their own shares
Revaluate the shares based on their own assesment
Book a gain on the intrinsic share value revaluation....
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
Magnate
#64 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:51:05 PM
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In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
enyands
#65 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:20:57 PM
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Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html



dj will buy all them back.it should be that way for so many technical reasons beyond us
murchr
#66 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:07:45 PM
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Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html


Alot of assumptions, how do they know that the rightful owners will not claim their assets? Too many assumptions in this article
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#67 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:13:18 PM
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murchr wrote:
Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html


Alot of assumptions, how do they know that the rightful owners will not claim their assets? Too many assumptions in this article

How did they know the shares are unclaimed .... dividends i understand but shares how????
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
MadDoc
#68 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:06:18 PM
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http://www.businessdaily...74168-d2b2cg/index.html

For ye afflicted by mall-mania.

Ps. I know it's not about Centum. It's just to show where malls are headed
murchr
#69 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:34:21 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html


Alot of assumptions, how do they know that the rightful owners will not claim their assets? Too many assumptions in this article

How did they know the shares are unclaimed .... dividends i understand but shares how????


Come to think of it, how can shares be unclaimed? Bonuses, buyout, ama? Laughing out loudly Hii gazetti is turning out to be another piece of kufunga nyama.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#70 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 8:56:20 AM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html


Alot of assumptions, how do they know that the rightful owners will not claim their assets? Too many assumptions in this article

How did they know the shares are unclaimed .... dividends i understand but shares how????


Come to think of it, how can shares be unclaimed? Bonuses, buyout, ama? Laughing out loudly Hii gazetti is turning out to be another piece of kufunga nyama.



How can 7.7% of the company be unclaimed. What is that?
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streetwise
#71 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 8:57:12 AM
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I agree that story is bull. The share have a name and address to them , are they saying they tried to trace the owners and they could not find them including placing and advert in the media ?.

Very strange behaviour indeed ...meaning if don't visit your shamba for three years , it is unclaimed.

What nonsense must we be made to read

Angelica _ann
#72 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 9:25:29 AM
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meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

The story is centered on DJCK. Otherwise it should have read behind (whoever is no. 1) and Kirubi!

How come this taking of shares to UFAA is unique Centum out of all the listed companies at NSE? We have not heard of it from any other listed company?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Wamunyota
#73 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 9:46:16 AM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Magnate wrote:
In other news,

Centum, has in the meanwhile surrendered 51 million shares worth an estimated Sh1.9 billion at current trading price of Sh38.50 per share to the Unclaimed Financial Assets Authority (UFAA)

meaning the UFAA now has a 7.7 per cent stake in the company which makes it the third largest shareholder behind Mr Kirubi

UFAA is required by law to sell the shares within a year
http://www.businessdaily...em-0-dise6pz/index.html


Alot of assumptions, how do they know that the rightful owners will not claim their assets? Too many assumptions in this article

How did they know the shares are unclaimed .... dividends i understand but shares how????


Come to think of it, how can shares be unclaimed? Bonuses, buyout, ama? Laughing out loudly Hii gazetti is turning out to be another piece of kufunga nyama.

The shares of those old gikuyu wazees who never their their wives and family where they have put their money and then they go to makueniPray Pray
Hutia Mundu!!
Angelica _ann
#74 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 10:36:37 AM
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Plant the news is working smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#75 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 11:19:54 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Plant the news is working smile

It is for Centum. While for KQ it's working against.. Good media relations are key in Africa for listed stock

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#76 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 11:49:37 AM
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This is a temporary bull as investors look for money to buy into GoK Treasury bills and bonds.
The period september to december is usually of high activity in terms of govt borrowing and loan repayments
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#77 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 12:55:58 PM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Plant the news is working smile

It is for Centum. While for KQ it's working against.. Good media relations are key in Africa for listed stock

For all the "negatives" against Centum, they are not in Negative Equity territory! Plus the managers [Mworia] has a large stake in it. As does Kirubi. Can Ngunze say the same? Or he gets paid monthly like Naikuni did come rain or shine?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 12:57:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
This is a temporary bull as investors look for money to buy into GoK Treasury bills and bonds.
The period september to december is usually of high activity in terms of govt borrowing and loan repayments

That doesn't make sense. If folks are buying T-Bills [money into T-Bills] then why the Bull? Folks can't buy T-Bills and Stocks at the same time using the same money!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#79 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 1:16:25 PM
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@VVS
Pump and dump.
T-bill and bonds will be issued later on;they are not running concurrently.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#80 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2016 1:52:01 PM
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The volume trading on this gain is insignificant to conclude anything
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