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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:26:11 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:55 PM
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Interim Div. Ksh 1.00

Payable 07 October 2016
Closure 16 September 2016

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Realcement
#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:49:49 PM
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Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:43:01 PM
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Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This share is not for those looking for dividends but for those looking for a quality firm that grows its profits (& NAV) consistently. Jubilee is probably snapping up cheap shares!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:41:48 AM
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@VVS
That is the trend with most Aga Khan owned firms with the exception of NMG.
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Aguytrying
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:45:43 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This share is not for those looking for dividends but for those looking for a quality firm that grows its profits (& NAV) consistently. Jubilee is probably snapping up cheap shares!


Why can't the bear deliver this at 340 and below on a plate. Pleeeeaaase. Even this banking drama can't make it sneeze?
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:51:49 AM
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Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well



I'm not in it for the dividend but the bonus that comes every two years(or thereabouts). This is a bonus year, as usual 1:10
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:29:08 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This share is not for those looking for dividends but for those looking for a quality firm that grows its profits (& NAV) consistently. Jubilee is probably snapping up cheap shares!


Why can't the bear deliver this at 340 and below on a plate. Pleeeeaaase. Even this banking drama can't make it sneeze?
True. Jubilee has a huge stake in DTB (another quality Aga Khan firm) but it seems there's no knock-on effect.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:31:19 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
@VVS
That is the trend with most Aga Khan owned firms with the exception of NMG.

The sector NMG is in is facing very tough times. We do not know what will happen. That said, for those who originally bought into NMG back in the day when it went public have done very well over the years.

I do not think NMG (unlike the other listed Aga Khan firms) is in a growth industry and NMG (as a mature firm without much growth) can pay out cash as dividends.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
lochaz-index
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:19:09 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This share is not for those looking for dividends but for those looking for a quality firm that grows its profits (& NAV) consistently. Jubilee is probably snapping up cheap shares!


Why can't the bear deliver this at 340 and below on a plate. Pleeeeaaase. Even this banking drama can't make it sneeze?
True. Jubilee has a huge stake in DTB (another quality Aga Khan firm) but it seems there's no knock-on effect.

Jubilee is a sure footer of a stock. It rarely overshoots into overvalued territory and the same is to be expected in a downtrend aka don't expect much of a bargain here. Not even safcom, eabl, equity and BAT can boast of similar pricing.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Gordon Gekko
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 5:42:46 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Yet another miserly interim dividend.
Final dividend also will be miserly as well


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly This share is not for those looking for dividends but for those looking for a quality firm that grows its profits (& NAV) consistently. Jubilee is probably snapping up cheap shares!


Why can't the bear deliver this at 340 and below on a plate. Pleeeeaaase. Even this banking drama can't make it sneeze?
True. Jubilee has a huge stake in DTB (another quality Aga Khan firm) but it seems there's no knock-on effect.

Jubilee is a sure footer of a stock. It rarely overshoots into overvalued territory and the same is to be expected in a downtrend aka don't expect much of a bargain here. Not even safcom, eabl, equity and BAT can boast of similar pricing.

I think JHL's key asset is the small number of fiercely loyal shareholders. I suspect it has the fewest number of shareholders of a listed company on the NSE, who are not willing to sell - even when it hit ksh 800, watu walikaa ngumu. The company secretary knows me by name, which other company sec knows me?
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 11:01:03 PM
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Jubilee buys Sh5bn extra shares in UG power plant

http://www.businessdaily...6102-98r73dz/index.html

That's where the cash is going. Future growth. Warren Buffett also expanded BH's unlisted portfolio vs the listed portfolio.
"For Jubilee, the increased purchase of Bujagali shares is part of its strategy of diversifying its investments into long-term ventures with high returns."
"The company has over the past few years reduced its exposure in listed firms, cushioning it from the bear run at the Nairobi bourse."

"Mr Juma said the company is well capitalized and has achieved and surpassed the minimum new risk based capital required for both life and general business."
"It is currently eyeing an entry in Ethiopia, subject to regulatory approvals. Some of the prospective new markets include Rwanda, South Sudan and Zambia."

This firm is on my wish-list when the prices fall significantly as a knee-jerk reaction to a temporary problem or matter.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 11:49:57 PM
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Yikes! Will UG gov't force Bujagali's investors to take a haircut?
http://www.theeastafrica...698-12g8q52z/index.html

The problem for UG is that the next time it tries to attract an investor for a long-term project, the investors may add a premium.

Why is it that UGANDANS aren't investing in Bujagali?
They have so many USD millionaires but how many will invest in Bujagali?
What about forming a "local" investment firm/chama that buys shares in BEL?

When the Ethiopians were denied funding for GERD [Renaissance Dam] they issued "Renaissance Bonds" [All profitable private firms had to buy these. I think banks have to buy a minimum amount as well] which are also open to the Diaspora.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
alotoftalk
#14 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 1:14:27 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Yikes! Will UG gov't force Bujagali's investors to take a haircut?
http://www.theeastafrica...698-12g8q52z/index.html

The problem for UG is that the next time it tries to attract an investor for a long-term project, the investors may add a premium.

Why is it that UGANDANS aren't investing in Bujagali?
They have so many USD millionaires but how many will invest in Bujagali?
What about forming a "local" investment firm/chama that buys shares in BEL?

When the Ethiopians were denied funding for GERD [Renaissance Dam] they issued "Renaissance Bonds" [All profitable private firms had to buy these. I think banks have to buy a minimum amount as well] which are also open to the Diaspora.


In rent seeking environments, no one wants to invest in production. Case in point Nigeria having no refineries due to money being made by oil importers from subsidies. In Uganda the easy money is still in rent seeking businesses like forex bureaus, lazy banking,imports etc
Investment philosophy development in progress...
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 10:27:03 AM
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Look at this. So many USD millionaires in Kenya. And Africa. If every African millionaire devoted just 25% of his/her wealth to investing in manufacturing [in addition to the land used for manufacturing] Africa would be far ahead...

http://www.businessdaily...9430-136tv4x/index.html

Add to that, the KES millionaires. If just 25% of Kenyan/African "KES" millionaires invested 25% of their wealth in manufacturing/farming [real farming not idle land speculation just holding farmland] even if it was just a few machines making building blocks or milling maize/sorghum, etc... Wouldn't we be self-sufficient in many sectors?

BTW, I include investing in manufacturing through a chama [Tea factories] or through shares eg BOC, FTGH, etc.

Some Kenyans eg:
C Kirubi has shares in Haco as well as in Centum which has shares in GMEA, Coca Cola, etc.
BC Patel in BOC and CARB.
Tea farmers in KTDA Tea Factories
P Paunrana in ARM
Ndegwas in Unga
Bangera in FTGH
Some coffee farmers in coffee mills
Some sugarcane farmers in sugar mills [a pity about Mumias]

Though I doubt they have 25% in manufacturing except (perhaps) Paunrana & Bangera. Dangote is someone who has invested in value-addition by manufacturing including cement, flour, etc.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#16 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 4:00:39 PM
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