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masukuma
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 03, 2016 8:57:36 PM
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Let us talk about Mark Zuckerberg picture of eating African food with his hands and the applause he is receiving from Africans, both from the poor and the elite.
It saddens me that in 2016, a white person eating African food will receive such accolades from Africans.
I have been living in the UK for 9 years and I have travelled around many white people's countries. I have been at dinner tables with many white people. I have eaten white people food with white people cutleries and never, never have I seen any surprise on the faces of these white people that I can eat like them.
Do you know why? Because white has been set as the standard of how the world works. When a white person speaks any African language and post videos online, that video will go viral among Africans. Even with the worse attempt at speaking the language or with horrible accents (Did anyone see the Trend jana when "Anyango" was singing?).
But I remember how many times black people have been called out by white people for their accent or the poor attempt at speaking white people's language.
Not only that, I am yet to see white people posting videos of black people trying to speak Spanish, Italian, English or German and seeing that video going viral among white people.
The madness that comes with Mark's visit and his eating of food with his hands, has his unintended consequences in the way black people are perceived and treated by white people.
Would it have been a pleasure to meet Mark? Yes, indeed it would have been. Would I have melted in his sight? NO, I won't.
The reason is, Mark is one of the many examples of a good system. A system where things work. A system that builds itself on the endless possibility that the mind of man can achieve.
There are many Marks in Kenya and many of them are trying, but we will celebrate them. This is because, without white endorsement, black talents is nothing but the waste of time and space.
Mark didn't develop facebook by praying in a church on Monday to Sunday, nor was he and his friends able to develop the largest social media platform in the world because they pray five times a day in a mosque.
No! it was not about how religious they were. It was about how visionary, coupled with a system and a government that have his people at the heart of governance and not how many wives and concubine, nor how many houses and wives.
Black people, your future is bleak, a very very bleak one. Yes, we can hold white people responsibility, but it is as far as we can. They are not responsible for the bullshit we buy from ourselves.
We have created heroes out of Pastors, Imams, and politicians, while our talents and creatives suffer.
We have allowed white standard as a benchmark for our lives, while we are doing catch-up, a catch-up that will never catch-up, simply because, we are not white people and no amount of bleaching creams we use, we will never be white... unasikia Hardwood?
No amount of white western education we have, no amount of white western food we eat, no amount of white western friends or lovers we have, we will never be white. We will never meet and beat the benchmark.
It is time to rethink and restructure the benchmark, shift the goal post, rearrange and reaffirm. Let us look within.
So that when the next Mark Zuckerberg eats ugali with his hands, it becomes the norm and not some angels among mere mortals.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Muheani
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 03, 2016 9:42:31 PM
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Some one needs CoolAid. for real
Our Tourism sector needs help from all angles, and if a visit and activities of one shuka bugger create enough buzz to influence three mzungus to come spend their dollars here..

coolaid pap.
Swenani
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:33:04 PM
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masukuma wrote:
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Let us talk about Mark Zuckerberg picture of eating African food with his hands and the applause he is receiving from Africans, both from the poor and the elite.
It saddens me that in 2016, a white person eating African food will receive such accolades from Africans.
I have been living in the UK for 9 years and I have travelled around many white people's countries. I have been at dinner tables with many white people. I have eaten white people food with white people cutleries and never, never have I seen any surprise on the faces of these white people that I can eat like them.
Do you know why? Because white has been set as the standard of how the world works. When a white person speaks any African language and post videos online, that video will go viral among Africans. Even with the worse attempt at speaking the language or with horrible accents (Did anyone see the Trend jana when "Anyango" was singing?).
But I remember how many times black people have been called out by white people for their accent or the poor attempt at speaking white people's language.
Not only that, I am yet to see white people posting videos of black people trying to speak Spanish, Italian, English or German and seeing that video going viral among white people.
The madness that comes with Mark's visit and his eating of food with his hands, has his unintended consequences in the way black people are perceived and treated by white people.
Would it have been a pleasure to meet Mark? Yes, indeed it would have been. Would I have melted in his sight? NO, I won't.
The reason is, Mark is one of the many examples of a good system. A system where things work. A system that builds itself on the endless possibility that the mind of man can achieve.
There are many Marks in Kenya and many of them are trying, but we will celebrate them. This is because, without white endorsement, black talents is nothing but the waste of time and space.
Mark didn't develop facebook by praying in a church on Monday to Sunday, nor was he and his friends able to develop the largest social media platform in the world because they pray five times a day in a mosque.
No! it was not about how religious they were. It was about how visionary, coupled with a system and a government that have his people at the heart of governance and not how many wives and concubine, nor how many houses and wives.
Black people, your future is bleak, a very very bleak one. Yes, we can hold white people responsibility, but it is as far as we can. They are not responsible for the bullshit we buy from ourselves.
We have created heroes out of Pastors, Imams, and politicians, while our talents and creatives suffer.
We have allowed white standard as a benchmark for our lives, while we are doing catch-up, a catch-up that will never catch-up, simply because, we are not white people and no amount of bleaching creams we use, we will never be white... unasikia Hardwood?
No amount of white western education we have, no amount of white western food we eat, no amount of white western friends or lovers we have, we will never be white. We will never meet and beat the benchmark.
It is time to rethink and restructure the benchmark, shift the goal post, rearrange and reaffirm. Let us look within.
So that when the next Mark Zuckerberg eats ugali with his hands, it becomes the norm and not some angels among mere mortals.


Who is he? Brand sells not culture
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masukuma
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:25:50 PM
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the issue here is not the fanfare of him coming or him going to our game parks but rather our obsession with white people who rubber stamp aspects of our culture - for example "anyango nyar japan" on the trend. Or Obama saying

or that "Luopean" at the airport

or that Lamu person "Sarah Hilwat"

or

or

or


I cannot see how him as a brand eating "fish and ugali"... and eating it mikono mitupu receiving accolades and fanfare FROM OURSELVES TO OURSELVES as helpful to tourism. I think it's more psychological to us in a subtle way...it's a self confession telling us - elements of our culture are appreciated by others.... and that somehow makes us... "more human"?
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Alba
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 3:20:55 PM
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Since Kenya has so many problems , the author of that piece probably should have found something more pressing to complain about.

There is nothing bad about being impressed by a Belgian woman who speaks fluent Kiswangili or a Norwegian who speaks fluent dholuo considering that many grown adults today can no longer speak their mother tongue.

But its not just Europeans. I personally was elated when I found out over a decade ago that a Swahili dialect is the first language of millions of Congolese people. And a few months back someone sent me a video of somali woman speaking swahili with a bukusu accent that made me laugh so much I could have fallen off my chair.

Kenyans are intrigued by Zuckerberg because they think facebook has made their lives much better. So the simple act of participating in Kenyan culture by eating Ugali became a talking point. It happened because this was Zuckerberg and not just any muzungu. After all Kenyans have seen wazungu eating ugali many times.
masukuma
#6 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:21:14 PM
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Alba wrote:
Since Kenya has so many problems , the author of that piece probably should have found something more pressing to complain about.

There is nothing bad about being impressed by a Belgian woman who speaks fluent Kiswangili or a Norwegian who speaks fluent dholuo considering that many grown adults today can no longer speak their mother tongue.

But its not just Europeans. I personally was elated when I found out over a decade ago that a Swahili dialect is the first language of millions of Congolese people. And a few months back someone sent me a video of somali woman speaking swahili with a bukusu accent that made me laugh so much I could have fallen off my chair.

Kenyans are intrigued by Zuckerberg because they think facebook has made their lives much better. So the simple act of participating in Kenyan culture by eating Ugali became a talking point. It happened because this was Zuckerberg and not just any muzungu. After all Kenyans have seen wazungu eating ugali many times.

the gist of the long write up is... why are we elated when we see the Belgian lady speak Swahili or "Anyango" speak luo in an accent that is way off and why aren't Belgians elated when a random African speaks French in a Belgian accent nor are Japanese elated when you say "Domo Arigato"? <-- there in lies the gist of his messaging.
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tycho
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:40:30 PM
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When an African native speaks French fluently and with a Belgian accent then he proves that he's been well assimilated. The Belgians are likely not to be too enthusiastic about that- or they may effect indifferent airs.

But when a Belgian associates with the culture of the native African even in a small way the native must celebrate because he's found some relief from the agonies of trying to catch up with assimilation.

Zuckerberger ate one kind of fish and we are celebrating... Ranneberger ate the other kind but some of us are suspicious. So we'll celebrate sometime in the future.
hardwood
#8 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 11:21:45 PM
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Two years ago I was in England and ate some "English sunday roast" and some Cornish pasties. Wonder why the englishmen weren't as excited by my eating as we are.
Anti_Burglar
#9 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 9:05:53 AM
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Poor African. Damned if he appreciates, damned if he complains.
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#10 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 9:51:11 AM
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#11 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 11:38:51 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Changed for context
Quote:
Let us talk about Mark Zuckerberg picture of eating African food with his hands and the applause he is receiving from Africans, both from the poor and the elite.
It saddens me that in 2016, a white person eating African food will receive such accolades from Africans.
I have been living in the UK for 9 years and I have travelled around many white people's countries. I have been at dinner tables with many white people. I have eaten white people food with white people cutleries and never, never have I seen any surprise on the faces of these white people that I can eat like them.
Do you know why? Because white has been set as the standard of how the world works. When a white person speaks any African language and post videos online, that video will go viral among Africans. Even with the worse attempt at speaking the language or with horrible accents (Did anyone see the Trend jana when "Anyango" was singing?).
But I remember how many times black people have been called out by white people for their accent or the poor attempt at speaking white people's language.
Not only that, I am yet to see white people posting videos of black people trying to speak Spanish, Italian, English or German and seeing that video going viral among white people.
The madness that comes with Mark's visit and his eating of food with his hands, has his unintended consequences in the way black people are perceived and treated by white people.
Would it have been a pleasure to meet Mark? Yes, indeed it would have been. Would I have melted in his sight? NO, I won't.
The reason is, Mark is one of the many examples of a good system. A system where things work. A system that builds itself on the endless possibility that the mind of man can achieve.
There are many Marks in Kenya and many of them are trying, but we will celebrate them. This is because, without white endorsement, black talents is nothing but the waste of time and space.
Mark didn't develop facebook by praying in a church on Monday to Sunday, nor was he and his friends able to develop the largest social media platform in the world because they pray five times a day in a mosque.
No! it was not about how religious they were. It was about how visionary, coupled with a system and a government that have his people at the heart of governance and not how many wives and concubine, nor how many houses and wives.
Black people, your future is bleak, a very very bleak one. Yes, we can hold white people responsibility, but it is as far as we can. They are not responsible for the bullshit we buy from ourselves.
We have created heroes out of Pastors, Imams, and politicians, while our talents and creatives suffer.
We have allowed white standard as a benchmark for our lives, while we are doing catch-up, a catch-up that will never catch-up, simply because, we are not white people and no amount of bleaching creams we use, we will never be white... unasikia Hardwood?
No amount of white western education we have, no amount of white western food we eat, no amount of white western friends or lovers we have, we will never be white. We will never meet and beat the benchmark.
It is time to rethink and restructure the benchmark, shift the goal post, rearrange and reaffirm. Let us look within.
So that when the next Mark Zuckerberg eats ugali with his hands, it becomes the norm and not some angels among mere mortals.


What a silly miserable write up. Anyone who can't tell the difference between Mark Zuckerburg and "any other white man" is a jokerLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Offcourse we are happy he visited Kenya, it says something about our importance in the league of nations, its an even bigger plus that he visited our parks and the highlight of the visit that he tried Kenyan cuisine at a walk in local restaurant.
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Lolest!
#12 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 11:47:19 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Two years ago I was in England and ate some "English sunday roast" and some Cornish pasties. Wonder why the englishmen weren't as excited by my eating as we are.

I bet there are many mzungus who've been to mama oliech's but hao wote sio Zukabagaa
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#13 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 11:57:02 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Two years ago I was in England and ate some "English sunday roast" and some Cornish pasties. Wonder why the englishmen weren't as excited by my eating as we are.

I bet there are many mzungus who've been to mama oliech's but hao wote sio Zukabagaa

Exactly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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masukuma
#14 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 2:10:51 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Two years ago I was in England and ate some "English sunday roast" and some Cornish pasties. Wonder why the englishmen weren't as excited by my eating as we are.

I bet there are many mzungus who've been to mama oliech's but hao wote sio Zukabagaa

Exactly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I have given examples of other wakosa melanine engaging in aspects of our culture and our "celebration" of the same. if you are on facebook I am sure you have seen that Korean choir singing in swa and it's a marvel - sio?
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bwenyenye
#15 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 3:11:24 PM
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Everyone appreciates it when some foreigner to them speaks their language and / or appreciates their culture. I have been asked a couple of times ' where did you learn such great English/ French?'.The white people may not be big on showing appreciation but they do marvel every time they realise that you actually know and Use Three languages!!. Look at how they appreciate our athletes when they go to run in Europe, Literally closing roads and businesses to go catch a glimpse to these men and women from far away lands that actually conquer them in their own games!

Lets learn to take things positively. We are all human! All of us!
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Wamunyota
#16 Posted : Monday, September 05, 2016 6:05:07 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Two years ago I was in England and ate some "English sunday roast" and some Cornish pasties. Wonder why the englishmen weren't as excited by my eating as we are.

Hata mimi nilikula mutura pale Githurai last week na hakuna mtu alishughulika.NKT.
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