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Cytonn Investments
Anbu
#261 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 11:26:28 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:


d'oh! d'oh!
The struggle continues
Horton
#262 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:35:48 PM
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This topic has gone awfully quiet. Where are akina paul, alma? I used to enjoy their conspiracy thoeries 😂
murchr
#263 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 5:20:31 AM
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Horton wrote:
This topic has gone awfully quiet. Where are akina paul, alma? I used to enjoy their conspiracy thoeries 😂


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#264 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:04:44 AM
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murchr wrote:
Horton wrote:
This topic has gone awfully quiet. Where are akina paul, alma? I used to enjoy their conspiracy thoeries 😂



Creative accounting? smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
newfarer
#265 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:05:29 AM
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Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?
punda amecheka
Horton
#266 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:57:32 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Horton wrote:
This topic has gone awfully quiet. Where are akina paul, alma? I used to enjoy their conspiracy thoeries 😂



Creative accounting? smile



So carbacid/kenyare/etc etc etc also show revaluation gains which is IFRS
Horton
#267 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:59:16 AM
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newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.
newfarer
#268 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:52:45 AM
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Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement
punda amecheka
Horton
#269 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:13:31 AM
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newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement


With all due respect, Since when did i become ur assistant?

I dont think non-listed companies are obliged to post those perhaps u want to contact them directly?
newfarer
#270 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:13:01 PM
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Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement


With all due respect, Since when did i become ur assistant?

I dont think non-listed companies are obliged to post those perhaps u want to contact them directly?

So the only public information is the Hotair revaluation profits? , no comments
punda amecheka
murchr
#271 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:46:05 PM
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Horton wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Horton wrote:
This topic has gone awfully quiet. Where are akina paul, alma? I used to enjoy their conspiracy thoeries 😂



Creative accounting? smile



So carbacid/kenyare/etc etc etc also show revaluation gains which is IFRS


d'oh!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
Horton
#272 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:45:48 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement


With all due respect, Since when did i become ur assistant?

I dont think non-listed companies are obliged to post those perhaps u want to contact them directly?

So the only public information is the Hotair revaluation profits? , no comments



If u seriously wanted the info, u would have emailed them and asked them for it, not ask for it in cyber space on forum.

"PNL=hot air" is your opinion, not everyones.
Pesa Nane
#273 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:46:26 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement



Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Horton
#274 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:22:24 PM
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Thanks again @ Pesa 8
murchr
#275 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:43:57 AM
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Pesa8 Kwani these results ni za 2015? Not HY 2016?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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newfarer
#276 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:04:22 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement





Thanks, pesanane, 19 million in cash and cash equivalent, not worth the chest thumping, comes closer to the real profit figure exclusive of the revaluation hot air
punda amecheka
newfarer
#277 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:07:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
Pesa8 Kwani these results ni za 2015? Not HY 2016?

This is okay as they have 18 months for the first year of operation
punda amecheka
Horton
#278 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:23:11 AM
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newfarer wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement





Thanks, pesanane, 19 million in cash and cash equivalent, not worth the chest thumping, comes closer to the real profit figure exclusive of the revaluation hot air



For a company thats only 1 year old?!?! I guess its too early in the morning for you!

You do know breaking even even in their first year is a feat in itself right?
Liv
#279 Posted : Friday, September 02, 2016 2:13:16 AM
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Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Horton wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Profits can be any Hotair. Cash is what pays the debts. Wapi cash flow statement?



For a 15month company....this is the bees knees.

Post cash flow statement





Thanks, pesanane, 19 million in cash and cash equivalent, not worth the chest thumping, comes closer to the real profit figure exclusive of the revaluation hot air



For a company thats only 1 year old?!?! I guess its too early in the morning for you!

You do know breaking even even in their first year is a feat in itself right?



I guess this cash flow is "cooked".... How do you include the fair value asset adjustments as cash flow items? Was land contribution from owners also a cashflow item?

I've never heard of an item ..."Cash used in the operations" in the cash flow....it should be cash from operations.... These terms matters as they are standard in accounting.

It seems the cash flow statement was prepared by an amateur or someone who is not a qualified accountant.

This makes me have more questions than answers about this company and its management.


kimanimsc
#280 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:12:03 PM
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