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PKoli
#301 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:51:03 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Dead cat bounce

I don't think it is a dead cat bounce; especially with the kind of volumes traded
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muandiwambeu
#302 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 5:45:36 AM
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PKoli wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Dead cat bounce

I don't think it is a dead cat bounce; especially with the kind of volumes traded

its a dead cat bounce.
many of us investor's took enough time to critic the aftermath of kamwaas choices to the economic n political arena n dismissed the consequences it would have on ur core responsibility that of our investments. more precariously few have guessestimated the impact by figures. in denial and purely cluelessly we justify the moves being made on historical perspectives n perceptions that have catastrophically expired ñ failed to deliver.
profits margins have been savored by approximately 50% and this will consequently half banks stock normalised price n further declines be expected from the increased uncertainty surrounding financial stocks. simba n member trading range 15-25s.
my takes.
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#303 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:13:54 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
PKoli wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Dead cat bounce

I don't think it is a dead cat bounce; especially with the kind of volumes traded

its a dead cat bounce.
many of us investor's took enough time to critic the aftermath of kamwaas choices to the economic n political arena n dismissed the consequences it would have on ur core responsibility that of our investments. more precariously few have guessestimated the impact by figures. in denial and purely cluelessly we justify the moves being made on historical perspectives n perceptions that have catastrophically expired ñ failed to deliver.
profits margins have been savored by approximately 50% and this will consequently half banks stock normalised price n further declines be expected from the increased uncertainty surrounding financial stocks. simba n member trading range 15-25s.
my takes.

Can't you put some commas, almost suffocating trying to finish your comment
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Ericsson
#304 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:16:39 AM
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#305 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:24:16 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
PKoli wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Dead cat bounce

I don't think it is a dead cat bounce; especially with the kind of volumes traded

its a dead cat bounce.
many of us investor's took enough time to critic the aftermath of kamwaas choices to the economic n political arena n dismissed the consequences it would have on ur core responsibility that of our investments. more precariously few have guessestimated the impact by figures. in denial and purely cluelessly we justify the moves being made on historical perspectives n perceptions that have catastrophically expired ñ failed to deliver.
profits margins have been savored by approximately 50% and this will consequently half banks stock normalised price n further declines be expected from the increased uncertainty surrounding financial stocks. simba n member trading range 15-25s.
my takes.


@mwa.... spot on. 50% drop in member EPS , assuming PE of 7 equals price of 14 - 20sh at best. Ditto for Simba.
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Aguytrying
#306 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:26:53 AM
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PKoli wrote:
instinct wrote:
watesh wrote:
KCB supply has dried up at the moment just around 150k shares up for grabs



any move towards 30 will be violently resisted...

I think kcb and equity will be comfortably in the 30s zone by end of Friday this week.


My thoughts too elder. The leg down was exaggerated and the reset back up to a new normal is on the cards.

Volumes traded is the support. Boy was it massive over the 2 days. Foreigners been bought out. Was it planned???
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Ericsson
#307 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:28:15 AM
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James Mwangi was scared and was even panicking about the cap in the interest rates.
This was evident even in equity bank's half year presentation.
As for KCB; Oigara was calm and cool and said let's wait and see
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KulaRaha
#308 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:34:12 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
James Mwangi was scared and was even panicking about the cap in the interest rates.
This was evident even in equity bank's half year presentation.
As for KCB; Oigara was calm and cool and said let's wait and see


Oigara works for KCB, Mwangi OWNS Equity. Big diff.
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Ericsson
#309 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:52:28 AM
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@kularaha
shauri yake kazi iendelee.
I don't think that is the difference.
Problem is he had no clue to counter.His speeches this year have been contradictory confirming the fears
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#310 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:21:58 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
James Mwangi was scared and was even panicking about the cap in the interest rates.
This was evident even in equity bank's half year presentation.
As for KCB; Oigara was calm and cool and said let's wait and see


Oigara works for KCB, Mwangi OWNS Equity. Big diff.

You took the words out of my mouth!!! How do you compare an owner with an employee???
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Metasploit
#311 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:22:46 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
PKoli wrote:
instinct wrote:
watesh wrote:
KCB supply has dried up at the moment just around 150k shares up for grabs



any move towards 30 will be violently resisted...

I think kcb and equity will be comfortably in the 30s zone by end of Friday this week.


My thoughts too elder. The leg down was exaggerated and the reset back up to a new normal is on the cards.

Volumes traded is the support. Boy was it massive over the 2 days. Foreigners been bought out. Was it planned???


on 30th Aug,the 775M turnover had 700M foreign buys and 75M local buy for Equity.Foreign sale 95%
KCB had 50% foreign buy and 50% local buy.Foreign sale over 95%

on 29th Aug both Equity and KCB had 99.9% foreign buys.

Foreigners have both smart and panicky investors.

Gaps have to be filled.

Equity target at least 32.5 (When the Gap started)

The shares on offer during the slide, on both counters and the adjustment corresponding to price drop points to one entity who desperately wanted to exit on the news..

Funds have behaved like that.FTSE behaved the same during brexit

Global Markets behaved the same during the first FOMC on QE taper.

That is why we normally have volume spike as smart money takes advantage of news.

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Metasploit
#312 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:28:30 AM
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So Equity is trailing KCB

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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researchfirst
#313 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:30:13 AM
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Metasploit wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
PKoli wrote:
instinct wrote:
watesh wrote:
KCB supply has dried up at the moment just around 150k shares up for grabs



any move towards 30 will be violently resisted...

I think kcb and equity will be comfortably in the 30s zone by end of Friday this week.


My thoughts too elder. The leg down was exaggerated and the reset back up to a new normal is on the cards.

Volumes traded is the support. Boy was it massive over the 2 days. Foreigners been bought out. Was it planned???


on 30th Aug,the 775M turnover had 700M foreign buys and 75M local buy for Equity.Foreign sale 95%
KCB had 50% foreign buy and 50% local buy.Foreign sale over 95%

on 29th Aug both Equity and KCB had 99.9% foreign buys.

Foreigners have both smart and panicky investors.

Gaps have to be filled.

Equity target at least 32.5 (When the Gap started)

The shares on offer during the slide, on both counters and the adjustment corresponding to price drop points to one entity who desperately wanted to exit on the news..

Funds have behaved like that.FTSE behaved the same during brexit

Global Markets behaved the same during the first FOMC on QE taper.

That is why we normally have volume spike as smart money takes advantage of news.


It can be panic selling, but not necessarily. One important thing to remember with certain big funds is they have investment rules they must follow. So, for example, an index tracker has to sell if a counter is dropped out of an index regardless of fundamentals. Same thing can apply to a percentage decline on a holding for others. My guess is that, in this case, once a certain threshold was triggered, one or more funds had no choice but to liquidate their position(s). Great for the rest of us!
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#314 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:30:41 AM
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Metasploit wrote:
So Equity is trailing KCB

meaning more fear in equity because it was above kcb before ,meanwhile let's enjoy a temporary green market
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VituVingiSana
#315 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:33:04 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
James Mwangi was scared and was even panicking about the cap in the interest rates.
This was evident even in equity bank's half year presentation.
As for KCB; Oigara was calm and cool and said let's wait and see

Owner
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#316 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:32:05 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
James Mwangi was scared and was even panicking about the cap in the interest rates.
This was evident even in equity bank's half year presentation.
As for KCB; Oigara was calm and cool and said let's wait and see

Owner
Employee


Enough said..incomparable
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obiero
#317 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:36:44 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
PKoli wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Dead cat bounce

I don't think it is a dead cat bounce; especially with the kind of volumes traded

its a dead cat bounce.
many of us investor's took enough time to critic the aftermath of kamwaas choices to the economic n political arena n dismissed the consequences it would have on ur core responsibility that of our investments. more precariously few have guessestimated the impact by figures. in denial and purely cluelessly we justify the moves being made on historical perspectives n perceptions that have catastrophically expired ñ failed to deliver.
profits margins have been savored by approximately 50% and this will consequently half banks stock normalised price n further declines be expected from the increased uncertainty surrounding financial stocks. simba n member trading range 15-25s.
my takes.


@mwa.... spot on. 50% drop in member EPS , assuming PE of 7 equals price of 14 - 20sh at best. Ditto for Simba.

Madness. How does a 4% drop in one income line qualify for 50% drop in EPS.. People assume that banks only derive income from lending.. There is cash queue, ATM, merchant line, trade services, forex, interbank lending, government billing, subsidiary business for the top tier.. Surely such an unfounded statement shouldn't appear in wazua

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.75; MTN ABP 5.20
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KulaRaha
#318 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:39:50 PM
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Kenyan banks derive 70% of revenue from net interest income. Enough said.
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#319 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:41:21 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Kenyan banks derive 70% of revenue from net interest income. Enough said.

Kindly place the financials for Equity H1, right here

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.75; MTN ABP 5.20
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#320 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:48:17 PM
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obiero wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Kenyan banks derive 70% of revenue from net interest income. Enough said.

Kindly place the financials for Equity H1, right here

people have made money in this drama and are now preparing to sell
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