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Masai Witchcraft take Cholmondeley
Angelica _ann
#21 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:53:30 AM
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hardwood wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Taking credit where they did not sow. Those days of lying to us with witchcraft stories are gone.


Very true. If witchcraft worked then our competing politicians, e.g. baba and ouru, would have been dispatched to the next world ages ago by their opponents

They could be having stronger witchcraft to repel the one from their 'enemies '
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Coolbull
#22 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2016 10:56:52 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Taking credit where they did not sow. Those days of lying to us with witchcraft stories are gone.


Very true. If witchcraft worked then our competing politicians, e.g. baba and ouru, would have been dispatched to the next world ages ago by their opponents

They could be having stronger witchcraft to repel the one from their 'enemies '


One used to go to South Africa and Nigeria. I don't know what happens. He gets victory but it gets stolen. Or he so believes or made to believe.
masukuma
#23 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2016 4:56:08 PM
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From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.
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tycho
#24 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2016 5:12:02 PM
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masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?

Vallerrie
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 2:18:08 PM
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All I can say on this matter is



RIP murderer.
masukuma
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 4:12:43 PM
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tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
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harrydre
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:20:54 PM
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tycho
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:06:38 PM
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masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
smile smile smile smile



You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.

in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations

1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"

I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...
masukuma
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:09:52 PM
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tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
smile smile smile smile



You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.

in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations

1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"

I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...

ah... damn auto correct sorry- replace all 'incarnation' above with 'incantation' -
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
tycho
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:16:04 PM
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Posts: 8,804
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masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
smile smile smile smile



You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.

in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations

1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"

I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...

ah... damn auto correct sorry- replace all 'incarnation' above with 'incantation' -


Then incantation is a unit of action. Such that Incantation = Action, so Incantation + Action = Action + Action = 2(Action).

And 2(Action)> Action.

I suspect the math is faulty.
masukuma
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:29:21 PM
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Posts: 13,821
Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
smile smile smile smile



You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.

in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations

1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"

I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...

ah... damn auto correct sorry- replace all 'incarnation' above with 'incantation' -


Then incantation is a unit of action. Such that Incantation = Action, so Incantation + Action = Action + Action = 2(Action).

And 2(Action)> Action.

I suspect the math is faulty.

incantation is activity... activity is not to be misconstrued to be related to productivity....
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Taurrus
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:37:04 PM
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Vallerrie wrote:
All I can say on this matter is



RIP murderer.

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tycho
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:37:48 PM
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Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.


Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?

Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?


I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation

Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;

Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that

Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
smile smile smile smile



You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.

in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations

1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"

I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...

ah... damn auto correct sorry- replace all 'incarnation' above with 'incantation' -


Then incantation is a unit of action. Such that Incantation = Action, so Incantation + Action = Action + Action = 2(Action).

And 2(Action)> Action.

I suspect the math is faulty.

incantation is activity... activity is not to be misconstrued to be related to productivity....


In this case the relation is clear. Firstly, the incantation is intended to increase productivity. So there's a relation.

Secondly, incantations belong to 'mantras'; specially designed tools for focusing mental energy and enhancing productivity.
tycho
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:51:57 PM
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The math would still be faulty if incantation activity is of a different class from the other activity.

a-b = a-b and a+b = a+b neither which are equal to zero.

masukuma
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:13:23 PM
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some conversations are like swimming through mud!!
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tycho
#36 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:31:56 AM
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masukuma wrote:
some conversations are like swimming through mud!!


For non mud fish, trying to force their way is an impossible task.
hardwood
#37 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 8:10:15 PM
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Just from funeral. RIP.
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#38 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 8:15:11 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Just from funeral. RIP.


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