masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:From what i have observed - the chances of increasing the success of your goal via supernatural means is just the same as that of people who don't do anything UNLESS if the supernatural means require you to say an incarnation THEN do something related to the activity you want success in. That rate is almost the same as someone.who does something related to the activity you want success in.
Where did you observe the 'supernatural' in action?
Again, does the second part of the argument really make sense? Is there any difference of behavior between the person saying 'incantation' and acting; and the person 'doing something related to the activity requiring success'?
I have observed people appealing to the supernatural for various things - my assertion is on whether the appeals work or not.
So the math is a simultaneous equation
Result1 = Incarnation;
Result2 = Incarnation + Action;
Result3 = Action;
Result2 and Result3 are the same(ish).
it follows that
Incarnation + Action= Action;
and this
Incarnation = Action - Action;
and thus
Incarnation = 0;
You lose me when you talk of 'incarnation'.
in·car·na·tion
ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: incarnation; plural noun: incarnations
1.
a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.
"Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"
synonyms: embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome; More
manifestation, bodily form, avatar
"the incarnation of artistic genius"
(in Christian theology) the embodiment of God the Son in human flesh as Jesus Christ.
noun: Incarnation; noun: the Incarnation
2.
(with reference to reincarnation) one of a series of lifetimes that a person spends on earth.
"in my next incarnation, I'd like to be the Secretary of Fun"
synonyms: lifetime, life, existence
"a previous incarnation"
I've been presuming that you're talking of 'incantation' or 'mantra'...