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Is it true about SUPKEM and DSTV
2012
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:25:52 AM
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masukuma wrote:
@2012, does your church march to the nearest brothel or changaa joint and close it.


Maybe the churches ought to do these. I don't know if we Christians are extremely democratic, don't cares or cowards. We never stand up against evil, we just watch from a distance and wait for our Pastors to condemn the evil of the week on Sunday at the pulpit while we nod our heads.

BBI will solve it
:)
cherubin
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:26:30 AM
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this a catch 22 position....vote NO and SUPKEM will go ahead and enforce the *&%"@*** ban on DSTV....vote YES and they will do the same.....so where does that leave us?Sad Shame on you
Njung'e
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:28:24 AM
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Looks like Al-shabaab is on an expansion programme.....and we will never know what hit us......Am i thinking NO?
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
callaspade
#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:29:24 AM
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...the more reason i buy a new pen for the meaning NO.
B.Timer
#35 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:29:56 AM
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kadonye wrote:
They have no legal authority to ban.

But they have a hold on their flock so much that they can enforce a ban.

BTW kadonye is a born again Christian


@Kadonye

Now that’s more like it, however......

Your religious persuasion not withstanding I must say that if they were tapping from the loyalty of their followers – by persuading them to give such dens a wide berth, we wouldn’t be so bothered.

But a ban!!! (in the universal sense, as opposed to the polemics you wanna introduce) simply beyond my ken.

Bwana we've have come to consider you as a voice of reason in this forum but today.....mmmm ....
you are wavering.
Give us our real Kadonye!!
Dunia ni msongamano..
Njung'e
#36 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:33:22 AM
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and daily Mu-sneezin[/color wrote:
and these guys are interpreting it as a license to screw us over


Laughing out loudly ....Someone's gonna borrow your headLaughing out loudly
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
masukuma
#37 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:38:59 AM
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@cherubin,3rd option Force these MPigs who we pay obscene amounts of money to change the Review Act and prevent a show-down.

@2012, are you a Christian? the fundamentals of Christianity is to deal with the intent!!! not the action since the action is a manifestation of the rot within. Thats why Christianity does not police its flock. Christianity is not legalistic. It points at moral wrongs but does not make the choice for you. since at the end of the day you will be held accountable by the law of the land or by God for all your actions.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
cherubin
#38 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:42:52 AM
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Njunge....Callaspade.....u just dont get it....YES or NO.....EFFECT IS THE SAME!!!
B.Timer
#39 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:45:18 AM
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2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
@2012, does your church march to the nearest brothel or changaa joint and close it.


Maybe the churches ought to do these. I don't know if we Christians are extremely democratic, don't cares or cowards. We never stand up against evil, we just watch from a distance and wait for our Pastors to condemn the evil of the week on Sunday at the pulpit while we nod our heads.



Seperation of church and state....

It is not for nothing.

And,

That point must never be allowed to get blurred.


Dunia ni msongamano..
poundfoolish
#40 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:47:05 AM
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This is the point where we admire them when in church closed doors for taking action on such matters..
but condemn them in public when it suits an argument..

Other wise ive always condemned them.... what do i do if im not muslim and my patrons are not muslim...i have to run my business.

Supkem have murkied the water..and now that i have just acquired my voters card.. im angling towards 'NO'
masukuma
#41 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:49:48 AM
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@B.Timer, exactly!!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
AmHere
#42 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:59:39 AM
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cherubin wrote:
Njunge....Callaspade.....u just dont get it....YES or NO.....EFFECT IS THE SAME!!!


FALSE

OLD - Anchored in an act of parliament
NEW - Anchored in the constitution. More difficult to repeal.

OLD - Restricted to the Protectorate even though it moved inwards by default
NEW - Enforceable nationwide
masukuma
#43 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:06:29 AM
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@AmHere, tell them.
We don't have to vote for a flawed draft just because the Principals are in a hurry to change it.
Kenyans don't Resign yourself to a bad draft!!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
callaspade
#44 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:11:00 AM
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... Cherubin.....i once said and will continue repeating myself.......its better to die standing than to live on your knees.
....two wrongs dont make a right....religion should not have been in the current constitution neither the future one.simple
nanfor1
#45 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:26:22 AM
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Wow, lets not get all hyperbolic and overly excited about things that are way out of the ordinary.

Lest we forget, last week some catholic priest refused to give communion to those that did not hold a voters card. Some Catholic priest refused to give communion to John Kerry because he was against some moral issue during the US elections.

I didn't see anyone here posting 3 posts in a row.

Religious fundamentalism exists within the christians and the muslims so I wonder what all the hulabaloo is about DSTV. I am pretty sure, they have come up with a million such decrees in a year.

The same thing that my pastor has a habit of doing every weekend including banning women who wear trousers.

Those were going to vote no will vote no anyway. This decree was there for a long time. I wonder why it came up after someone realised that Kenyans will vote for this constitution 3:1?

So whilst we condemn this action, let us not try and cloud it in another "muslims are funny" argument.

In the view of most Kenyans fundamentalist are fundamentalist be they muslims, christians, mungiki, or legio maria. You all belong in the same old constitution.

The rest of us will vote Yes in spite of this clerical declaration or the declaration that anyone voting No is is against God.
Hata wakizima taa
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