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Obi 1 Kanobi
#111 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:30:05 PM
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tycho wrote:
South Korea takes women's marathon...

d'oh! I thought Jemima Sum gong just won it for us
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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tycho
#112 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:40:05 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
tycho wrote:
South Korea takes women's marathon...

d'oh! I thought Jemima Sum gong just won it for us


Sum gong for U.S? Name sounds Korean. My bird...
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Alba
#113 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:34:28 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Genzebe has not been running much probably because of the fiasco with her coach being busted for EPO. I am fairly certain that Genzebe Dibaba is a doper as is Mo Farah.

In any case most countries including Ethiopia and Kenya do not have an off season dope testing program. Remember that doping is most effective when you are doing your pre-season running. Athletes build up their endurance during the months of January to March and thats when they dope. So testing during the Olympics is almost useless.

Without an effective off-season testing program in each country, its difficult to believe any result.


I don't know how true your statement is. From sources on the internet, tests are random and can be taken anywhere anytime. I have never heard of off season dope testing program. I'd appreciate if you enlighten me verifiable information.


IAAF wants all countries to create an off-season dope testing program which is why they declared Kenya non compliant.

With regard to why off season doping is the most effective, see the words of Clemens Prokop, the chair of the German Federation



“The time period immediately preceding the Olympic Games is only of secondary relevance when trying to benefit from doping effects.”

The biggest performance-enhancing effects from doping are achieved during “training peaks,” which for the Rio Games would have been in the fall of 2015 and this spring.

Any tests carried out between now and the games are “inept” and will “never restore the level playing field in athletics,“’ Prokop said.


IAAF performs some out of competition testing on the top athletes. See this link
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timizo
#114 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 9:04:03 PM
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Please, what is this??
Track and field has nothing to do with team work but more about the individual.
The only thing that may not work is an individual strategy and not team work.

Each athlete should know the strategy that make them thrive.

Example. We have been used to not having a clear winner in the 5,000 and 10,000 until the last lap.

Ayana knows she cannot thrive in that. The only thing that works for her is to hit it early and determine the race very very early.

All those athletes knew how Ayana runs. If you do not have the stamina to catch her, there is nothing you can do. Any team strategy is just useless in this case.

The person who was hard hit by her pace is Dibaba. If the race was slow, anyone who has been watching athletics know what Dibaba can do in the last lap.

We have to Congratulate Vivia but there was no answer to Ayana. We should not blame anyone.


In this case
Ebenyo wrote:
madollar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
10,000M silver is great. The winner broke the WR

The funny thing Vivian is now faster than dibaba and she has never won a race dibaba was in You have to feel for her she has been chasing dibaba for so long and now enters ayana.@Alba is right that Ayana WR is subject to some serious debate she did not even strain considering the number of people she lapped she could have even gone faster


Team kenya strategy was wrong.Aprot started well.Saina was supposed to take over when Aprot tired.This would have allowed Vivian to breakout within 2-3 last laps.But saina was slow to take over from aprot thus allowing Ayana to run away with the gold.
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murchr
#115 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 4:07:41 AM
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Very good run by Wayde 400m...He broke that ancient world record Applause Applause
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kripp
#116 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 4:21:20 AM
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murchr wrote:
Very good run by Wayde 400m...He broke that ancient world record Applause Applause


In these cynical times of track & field, his big winning margin over LaShawn Merrit and Kirani James taken together with a more than 1 second improvement over his season's best is extremely suspicious.

Also notice that at the end of the race everyone else is panting and sweating but Van Niekerk has literally not broken a sweat!!
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murchr
#117 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 4:35:35 AM
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And Bolt is still the undisputed 100M champ
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#118 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 4:37:52 AM
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kripp wrote:
murchr wrote:
Very good run by Wayde 400m...He broke that ancient world record Applause Applause


In these cynical times of track & field, his big winning margin over LaShawn Merrit and Kirani James taken together with a more than 1 second improvement over his season's best is extremely suspicious.

Also notice that at the end of the race everyone else is panting and sweating but Van Niekerk has literally not broken a sweat!!


They guy is simply excellent. South Africans have been waiting for the day they will showcase him to the world.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Alba
#119 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 5:08:23 AM
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If you want to make a calculated guess on whether a person is doping, look at his progression.
Most natural runners show their true potential in their late teens or early 20s and typically peak in their mid 20s whereafter they start to decline.

Aside from the fact that his coach was nabbed with viles of EPO, an unnatural progression is what makes Mo Farah so suspicious.

This chap was a bum in his mid 20s. At the 2006 Commonwealth games he was so useless that he was almost overlapped by Augustin Choge who was only 19 at the time.

Now 10 years later Mo Farah is 33 and running much faster than he did when he was 23. Yet he is at an age when he should be in decline. It is feats like these that leave you jaded about the sport.
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masukuma
#120 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 8:23:04 AM
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kripp wrote:
murchr wrote:
Very good run by Wayde 400m...He broke that ancient world record Applause Applause


In these cynical times of track & field, his big winning margin over LaShawn Merrit and Kirani James taken together with a more than 1 second improvement over his season's best is extremely suspicious.

Also notice that at the end of the race everyone else is panting and sweating but Van Niekerk has literally not broken a sweat!!

yeah... the last 50 meters was quite something!!! Pulled away! I hope he is running clean. I am so happy for him! Everyone else is on the ground after running he is the only one standing.
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