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Law Capping interest rates
MaichBlack
#141 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:03:15 AM
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Posts: 7,910
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you hear the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Swenani
#142 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:26:37 AM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"



@MB, Wazuans are too average to understand macro economics
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#143 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:31:06 AM
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Posts: 13,237
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I keep reading people here arguing for protecting banks and just laugh.

Could someone check what the average interest rate in Japan is and compare that with the size of their banks, what about US and Europe. Banks in Kenya will continue making profits same way other banks are making elsewhere in the world with interest rate margins of 2 or even less.

Pass the bill so we can get rid of some of these ponzi and pyramid schemes masquerading as banks.


you cant just compare kenyan banks with banks in developed economies...It's like comparing a dick to an airport
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#144 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:51:06 AM
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Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,017
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
MaichBlack
#145 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:38:44 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,910
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Othelo
#146 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 1:11:26 PM
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Posts: 3,528
Willing buyer, willing seller!!! Who forces people to put money in a bank account and nobody is forced to take loans!!! Let banks be smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
sparkly
#147 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:30:00 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.
Life is short. Live passionately.
MaichBlack
#148 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:58:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,910
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Othelo
#149 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:02:21 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism

So after banks who will be regulate next, supermarkets. This thing will backfire big time. Let us wait and see. smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Othelo
#150 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:05:08 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
Our problem is lack of information flow to help us make informed decisions and choices. A person opens an account in bank x and wants all services from there. We need to shop around all the time and make informed decisions.
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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