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Law Capping interest rates
watesh
#101 Posted : Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:00:31 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Capping is good, very good but if GOK wants to drive a low interest policy in the consumer market, why not drive the policy through GOK owned institutions like NBK, ADC, Development Bank, ICDC.

YES YES YES YES....lower rates in these institutions first before trying to control the market. Prove the concept first!!
MaichBlack
#102 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 9:52:27 AM
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The president has noted the concerns of CBK and Bankers on the capping of interest rates. Enough said!!!

The rest are details...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mlennyma
#103 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 10:04:57 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
This can be a raila policy, i will be shocked if it can still be uhuru's policy as well.

tinga pushing hard for the signing as i had predicted
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kayhara
#104 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 10:24:03 AM
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watesh wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Capping is good, very good but if GOK wants to drive a low interest policy in the consumer market, why not drive the policy through GOK owned institutions like NBK, ADC, Development Bank, ICDC.

YES YES YES YES....lower rates in these institutions first before trying to control the market. Prove the concept first!!

Seems too many guys are afraid of this, I say let's try it we can always go back like the car duty thing, trial and error seems to be our way.
Policy? it will be like what National oil tried but failed at providing lower prices.
To Each His Own
mlennyma
#105 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 10:34:08 AM
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kayhara wrote:
watesh wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Capping is good, very good but if GOK wants to drive a low interest policy in the consumer market, why not drive the policy through GOK owned institutions like NBK, ADC, Development Bank, ICDC.

YES YES YES YES....lower rates in these institutions first before trying to control the market. Prove the concept first!!

Seems too many guys are afraid of this, I say let's try it we can always go back like the car duty thing, trial and error seems to be our way.
Policy? it will be like what National oil tried but failed at providing lower prices.

car duty,capital gainsSad interest rates
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Obi 1 Kanobi
#106 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 10:42:45 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This can be a raila policy, i will be shocked if it can still be uhuru's policy as well.

tinga pushing hard for the signing as i had predicted


@RAO is obviously laying the groundwork for later when he sends his reps to KBA to collect something for him to not shout too loudly.

Uhuru sign the damn bill.

Is this something that can be taken to a referendum come next election ama its only constitutional changes that are taken to referendums. Let the people decide if Uhuru is too focused on preserving the family wealth.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
obiero
#107 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 12:21:07 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This can be a raila policy, i will be shocked if it can still be uhuru's policy as well.

tinga pushing hard for the signing as i had predicted


@RAO is obviously laying the groundwork for later when he sends his reps to KBA to collect something for him to not shout too loudly.

Uhuru sign the damn bill.

Is this something that can be taken to a referendum come next election ama its only constitutional changes that are taken to referendums. Let the people decide if Uhuru is too focused on preserving the family wealth.

lol.. MPs are our reps and I believe the people have spoken. The constitution of Kenya starts as ''We the people''. Not, ''We the CBA.. :)

MaichBlack
#108 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 1:24:16 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This can be a raila policy, i will be shocked if it can still be uhuru's policy as well.

tinga pushing hard for the signing as i had predicted

@mlennyma - Hii ni socialism ama ni Communism?

People DEMANDING to benefit from other people's (not government's) resources!!!

Some people might kill free enterprise/businesses if given a chance.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mlennyma
#109 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 1:27:57 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This can be a raila policy, i will be shocked if it can still be uhuru's policy as well.

tinga pushing hard for the signing as i had predicted

@mlennyma - Hii ni socialism ama ni Communism?

People DEMANDING to benefit from other people (not government's) resources!!!

Some people might kill free enterprise/businesses if given a chance.

communism and laziness,you must sell your mangoes the way you want even if they rot for lack of buyers they are yours,I even suggest raila would tame the green elephant given the presidency
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
MaichBlack
#110 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2016 1:53:59 PM
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For those who want viable solutions, this is how governments elsewhere operate (In general).

1) Reduce (government) demand.

2) Subsidize, review taxes downwards etc.

3) Offer cheaper options.

For example, did Obama demand that hospitals should charge less so that everyone can afford medicare?? Of course not!! Come up with policies to ensure everyone is covered, equip government hospitals to ensure no one ever NEEDS to go to a private hospital etc.

Have Germany, US etc. demanded that private schools and universities reduce their fees? Nope! Just ensure public schools and universities are equipped and staffed to a level that they can compete with private schools and Universities.

Netherlands - You would never imagine of being a landlord! Why? The government - central and municipal - have built enough houses and ensure that everyone who needs a house gets allocated one. And they are affordable!! When you turn 18, you sign up with the Municipal and they get you a house. They do the same with education, medicare etc. If you have a job, you pay for cover. If you don't, the government figures out what to do.

Do most developed countries have to deal with "matatu menace" and pricing? Nope! They have ensured public transport is well catered for - trains etc.

Examples are endless. You have to decide if you are a Capitalist nation with free markets or a Communist/Socialist country.

Even fuel price controls would have been addressed very easily without the "control" part. Just ensure there are National Oil stations all over the country and have them sell fuel at the lowest commercially viable price - the government can control the price being the owner. If the other petrol stations continue selling at plus 10 bob and Kenyans go to fuel there, no problem! So long as those same Kenyans had the option to buy the same fuel CONVENIENTLY at a lower price, it is okay!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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