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Law Capping interest rates
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:58:22 PM
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If Uhuru signs this bill, I just may vote him for a second term.

Treasury and CBK are all for reduced interest rates, so why not support the process.

Market forces are not working as fast as we need them to work to manage the high interest rates regime.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Impunity
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:13:40 PM
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The Banking cartles and CBK have ganged up against the biol, very sad day.
Where in the world do commercial banks makes 30 billion profits and pay 1.5% pa interest on deposits?
Its only invetsment banks which can make such weird profits since most of them are actually pyranid schemes and cons...they quicly derate a country from AA+ to say C in a midnight then go behind door and buy the falling goverment papers in that same country, then after a year or two, they would elevate the country from C to A+, sell the papers and go home laughing.

For commercial banks like KCB and Equity, this is not their core buisness, so how how they manage those billion-profits is a mystery.
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Sir invest
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:18:34 PM
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He will be reluctant to sign it since he has heavily invested in the banking industry. Again Kenya Bankers Association (KBA) chief executive officer Habil Olaka, Treasury CS Rotich, and CBK Governor are not supporting this idea.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:24:27 PM
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Sir invest wrote:
He will be reluctant to sign it since he has heavily invested in the banking industry. Again Kenya Bankers Association (KBA) chief executive officer Habil Olaka, Treasury CS Rotich, and CBK Governor are not supporting this idea.


2 faced bastards, one hand they want reduced rates for mwananchi but are unwilling to take any action to achieve the same.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Mike Ock
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:28:30 PM
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Impunity wrote:
The Banking cartles and CBK have ganged up against the biol, very sad day.
Where in the world do commercial banks makes 30 billion profits and pay 1.5% pa interest on deposits?
Its only invetsment banks which can make such weird profits since most of them are actually pyranid schemes and cons...they quicly derate a country from AA+ to say C in a midnight then go behind door and buy the falling goverment papers in that same country, then after a year or two, they would elevate the country from C to A+, sell the papers and go home laughing.

For commercial banks like KCB and Equity, this is not their core buisness, so how how they manage those billion-profits is a mystery.

Unfortunately that is a defining characteristic of 3rd world countries: government is held hostage by private business interests
Impunity
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:33:25 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The Banking cartles and CBK have ganged up against the biol, very sad day.
Where in the world do commercial banks makes 30 billion profits and pay 1.5% pa interest on deposits?
Its only invetsment banks which can make such weird profits since most of them are actually pyranid schemes and cons...they quicly derate a country from AA+ to say C in a midnight then go behind door and buy the falling goverment papers in that same country, then after a year or two, they would elevate the country from C to A+, sell the papers and go home laughing.

For commercial banks like KCB and Equity, this is not their core buisness, so how how they manage those billion-profits is a mystery.

Unfortunately that is a defining characteristic of 3rd world countries: government is held hostage by private business interests


Its becomes more messy when the Nations CEO is one of the biggest banker on the land!
The Arab spring could be the only solution left, sadly.
Portfolio: Sold
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Emerger
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:59:23 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The Banking cartles and CBK have ganged up against the biol, very sad day.
Where in the world do commercial banks makes 30 billion profits and pay 1.5% pa interest on deposits?
Its only invetsment banks which can make such weird profits since most of them are actually pyranid schemes and cons...they quicly derate a country from AA+ to say C in a midnight then go behind door and buy the falling goverment papers in that same country, then after a year or two, they would elevate the country from C to A+, sell the papers and go home laughing.

For commercial banks like KCB and Equity, this is not their core buisness, so how how they manage those billion-profits is a mystery.

Unfortunately that is a defining characteristic of 3rd world countries: government is held hostage by private business interests


Its becomes more messy when the Nations CEO is one of the biggest banker on the land!
The Arab spring could be the only solution left, sadly.


This bill may not see the light of the day. In my humble opinion i dont support the signing.

We are in a liberal market aka free economy, why then revert the gains brought about by this position of freeness.

Lowering of interest rates by banks et al cannot be emphasized more but putting a bill to do it is not the right avenue.

The CBK is already putting measures in place to ensure the CBR & KBRR rates are effectively transmitted and they have already started to do so. This is the process that needs to be enforced and strengthened.
One would wonder, how was the +4% for loans & 70% for deposits arrived at? What were the factors considered?
What stakeholders input were put in place?

Its we the consumers of credit who needs to 'force' the reduction of lending rates via the pricing information available in the various sources.

my thoughts.
obiero
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:08:09 PM
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Emerger wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The Banking cartles and CBK have ganged up against the biol, very sad day.
Where in the world do commercial banks makes 30 billion profits and pay 1.5% pa interest on deposits?
Its only invetsment banks which can make such weird profits since most of them are actually pyranid schemes and cons...they quicly derate a country from AA+ to say C in a midnight then go behind door and buy the falling goverment papers in that same country, then after a year or two, they would elevate the country from C to A+, sell the papers and go home laughing.

For commercial banks like KCB and Equity, this is not their core buisness, so how how they manage those billion-profits is a mystery.

Unfortunately that is a defining characteristic of 3rd world countries: government is held hostage by private business interests


Its becomes more messy when the Nations CEO is one of the biggest banker on the land!
The Arab spring could be the only solution left, sadly.


This bill may not see the light of the day. In my humble opinion i dont support the signing.

We are in a liberal market aka free economy, why then revert the gains brought about by this position of freeness.

Lowering of interest rates by banks et al cannot be emphasized more but putting a bill to do it is not the right avenue.

The CBK is already putting measures in place to ensure the CBR & KBRR rates are effectively transmitted and they have already started to do so. This is the process that needs to be enforced and strengthened.
One would wonder, how was the +4% for loans & 70% for deposits arrived at? What were the factors considered?
What stakeholders input were put in place?

Its we the consumers of credit who needs to 'force' the reduction of lending rates via the pricing information available in the various sources.

my thoughts.

The borrowing rates are too high and banks get way too much profit for a developing state.. The approach taken by our legislators may not be the best but its better to do something wrong fast than to do nothing right slowly
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Swenani
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:26:55 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
If Uhuru signs this bill, I just may vote him for a second term.

Treasury and CBK are all for reduced interest rates, so why not support the process.

Market forces are not working as fast as we need them to work to manage the high interest rates regime.


Because it's the consumers who will suffer, the govt can reduce the interest rates without the bill, they only need to ensure they are borrowing from the banks at <5%
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Ebenyo
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:32:50 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
If Uhuru signs this bill, I just may vote him for a second term.

Treasury and CBK are all for reduced interest rates, so why not support the process.

Market forces are not working as fast as we need them to work to manage the high interest rates regime.


i do not support this bill.The NPLS are still too high.Reducing the rates wont help reduce npls.A defaulter is just a defaulter.
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