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Spikes
#4981 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 9:14:54 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
29 days till results are released. 7.6b loss and below and we shall be all clear for take off.anything deeper and I shall consider a second exit..



Take off with negative equity and monumental dilution from government injection of billions of shillings to be converted into common stock!

with all the asset sales and paid down debt. one still expects a constant negative equity position.. smh




You will be shocked for another disastrous plunge to 3.50/-

I guess the clown was serious this time.. Though KES 3.5 is unlikely



Are you serious? Unlikely when we are expecting an all-out catastrophe in next year profit announcement, 2016/2017 financial year! Remember there are no assets to sale nor landing slots to relinquish to it competitors. I am waiting @50 cents.


There are critical stages in any stock:

1. A stock can disobey a cartoon like KQ and MSC for now are moving opposite directions of the charts.
2. Government controlled firms can remain in the dark as long as the politicians want.

PS. @obiero you have a short memory. Still you have not accepted that negative equity has double and 2016/17 it will triple. Don't hope when you should fear!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Kausha
#4982 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 9:53:32 AM
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Things are getting tough year. Doesn't look like there is a turn around plan afoot. KQ needs to go back to basics, cut the non profitable routes, return non profitable planes or idle planes, reduce work force and other overheads and focus on repaying debt down. Once cash flow positive they can begin to make strategic moves. Fixing KQ in its current state and size is a near impossible task.
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maka
#4983 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 9:55:29 AM
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Kausha wrote:
Things are getting tough year. Doesn't look like there is a turn around plan afoot. KQ needs to go back to basics, cut the non profitable routes, return non profitable planes or idle planes, reduce work force and other overheads and focus on repaying debt down. Once cash flow positive they can begin to make strategic moves. Fixing KQ in its current state and size is a near impossible task.


Haven't they done all that...btw work force is really really strained if they continue down sizing...OTP will be greatly affected they have been warned on that severally.Guys are really strained and disgruntled.

You can imagine even drinking water for staff which is a requirement of the law hawana...or comes in after a few days of being missing...no allowance for acting posts...rem the story for the provident fund?Honestly what else can you do to make the lives of the workers unbearable?
possunt quia posse videntur
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VituVingiSana
#4984 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:05:35 AM
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This blogpost from 2012 was on the money! http://coldtusker.blogsp...d&utm_medium=twitter
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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maka
#4985 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:11:37 AM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]This blogpost from 2012 was on the money! http://coldtusker.blogsp...&utm_medium=twitter[/quote]

It came to pass...
possunt quia posse videntur
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VituVingiSana
#4986 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:14:57 AM
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maka wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]This blogpost from 2012 was on the money! http://coldtusker.blogsp...&utm_medium=twitter[/quote]

It came to pass...


"Question to potential 'new' shareholders. If KQ's Board of Directors can do this to existing shareholders today, how sure can you be the same will not be done to you in 3 years?"

Yes, it came to pass. The existing shareholders (post-Rights) will be massively diluted as the 'new' GoK cash is converted into shares.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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MaichBlack
#4987 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:22:42 AM
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Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Tomorrow's price is likely to be the final time in recent memory that we shall reach KES 4.60. It is official, the plane is ready for take off



You are forgetting the fact that ensuing court battle by sacked employees might tank this stock further to 2/-.

This time around there shall be no court case. Trust me.. Tomorrow's price and volume action on the share shall show the way forward




Even if it jumps to 4.6/-with huge volume the fact remains this is sugar-coated speculation. Ni kama kukanyaga makaa ya moto! Utakosa kuchomeka kweli? @obiero if your speculation theory obeys you by Fry-dei jump out with more than 30%- otherwise you risk your fortune herein.

KES 4.70 printed. We shall not see these prices again. Once we break out of KES 5.00, only God knows where we shall land. As I have posited and opined here severally, KQ should never have traded below KES 8.00 and its real value is KES 14 with a possible premium of upto KES 45 per share based on return to profitability..


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Obiero surely!!! This "inside information" of yours must be the worst in the history of inside information!!! Imagine all the poor newbies that might have followed @Obiero and his "inside information"!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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MaichBlack
#4988 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:32:32 AM
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obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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iris
#4989 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:44:43 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


@Maich, the "inside information" may even have been spot-on, who knows. Remember:

"I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity"

Lesson for the innocent..
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VituVingiSana
#4990 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 10:49:30 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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