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The 5 Value Traps of the NSE Investors Should Avoid
the deal
#1 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 4:11:07 PM
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A Value Trap is a stock that appears to be cheap on paper, it's either trading on a low P/E multiple or below it's book value, its normally characterized by a sharp price depreciation and investors are normally attracted to this kind of stocks thinking it will not go any lower only for it to fall further.

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#2 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 4:22:21 PM
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as far as i can see there's no value trap for me on the nse when the bull resumes (note RESUME) all stocks will get lifted even paka
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#3 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 4:31:34 PM
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For once I agree with QW, on this one....
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#4 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 5:13:44 PM
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@thedeal i agree with you on unga and kenre. Nbk and access poor fundamentals, no value. Safaricom is one of the most responsive to news. Add on your list Boc. Looks cheap on pe and div yields but is a value trap.
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 5:26:38 PM
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Jamani wrote:
For once I agree with QW, on this one....

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#6 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 7:20:05 PM
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Well. I wont talk about p.e. But here are the money traps. Paka, sameer, nbk, olimpia, access, express. Eapc. IF you buy any of these and you lose your money. Dont say u were not warned.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#7 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 7:47:03 PM
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the deal wrote:
A Value Trap is a stock that appears to be cheap on paper, it's either trading on a low P/E multiple or below it's book value, its normally characterized by a sharp price depreciation and investors are normally attracted to this kind of stocks thinking it will not go any lower only for it to fall further.

Read more on this link http://www.contrarianinv...stors-should-avoid.html smile

I really want you to explain why kcb is bubbling under?? I agree with all. Except unga. Why. Like u said, they are cash rich, increasing profits good dividend. The risks you mentioned are true, but not enough to make it a value trap. They've been in this business for a while, on the corruption they'll do what They've always done. On standardized price, they'll survive. And being one of the bigger firms, when the rubber touches the road, i expect the smaller firms to be hardest hit.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#8 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 7:48:42 PM
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the deal wrote:
A Value Trap is a stock that appears to be cheap on paper, it's either trading on a low P/E multiple or below it's book value, its normally characterized by a sharp price depreciation and investors are normally attracted to this kind of stocks thinking it will not go any lower only for it to fall further.

Read more on this link http://www.contrarianinv...stors-should-avoid.html smile

I really want you to explain why kcb is bubbling under?? I agree with all. Except unga. Why. Like u said, they are cash rich, increasing profits good dividend. The risks you mentioned are true, but not enough to make it a value trap. They've been in this business for a while, on the corruption they'll do what They've always done. On standardized price, they'll survive. And being one of the bigger firms, when the rubber touches the road, i expect the smaller firms to be hardest hit.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
the deal
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:45:04 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
the deal wrote:
A Value Trap is a stock that appears to be cheap on paper, it's either trading on a low P/E multiple or below it's book value, its normally characterized by a sharp price depreciation and investors are normally attracted to this kind of stocks thinking it will not go any lower only for it to fall further.

Read more on this link http://www.contrarianinv...stors-should-avoid.html smile

I really want you to explain why kcb is bubbling under?? I agree with all. Except unga. Why. Like u said, they are cash rich, increasing profits good dividend. The risks you mentioned are true, but not enough to make it a value trap. They've been in this business for a while, on the corruption they'll do what They've always done. On standardized price, they'll survive. And being one of the bigger firms, when the rubber touches the road, i expect the smaller firms to be hardest hit.

Some stocks bull or bear they don't move at all....if you stuck with Unga or Kenya Re you would have missed last years bull run..
murchr
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:59:35 AM
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2016

1. Home Afrika

2. Trans-Century

3. EAPC

4. Mumias

5. Sameer
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:33:29 AM
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murchr wrote:
2016

1. Home Afrika

2. Trans-Century

3. EAPC

4. Mumias

5. Sameer

Add Olympia, KQ...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:44:07 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
2016

1. Home Afrika

2. Trans-Century

3. EAPC

4. Mumias

5. Sameer

Add Olympia, KQ...


Add Atlas Africa Industries/ ADSS
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Aguytrying
#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:47:29 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Well. I wont talk about p.e. But here are the money traps. Paka, sameer, nbk, olimpia, access, express. Eapc. IF you buy any of these and you lose your money. Dont say u were not warned.


I was wrong only about access which was sold. NBK! those days it was trading in the 30's. Even though i was an amateur i still had it
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
murchr
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:32:27 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
2016

1. Home Afrika

2. Trans-Century

3. EAPC

4. Mumias

5. Sameer


Add Olympia, KQ...


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Olympia is "fairly" priced. If you buy it today, you will get your money back in 10 years ceteris paribas.

KQ's books dont show value. Looking at the books alone, i would call it a Zombie .....(Sorry Obiero)
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:31:25 PM
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murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
2016

1. Home Afrika

2. Trans-Century

3. EAPC

4. Mumias

5. Sameer


Add Olympia, KQ...


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Olympia is "fairly" priced. If you buy it today, you will get your money back in 10 years ceteris paribas.

KQ's books dont show value. Looking at the books alone, i would call it a Zombie .....(Sorry Obiero)

Matu will not let the company live another 10 years!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:57:27 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Well. I wont talk about p.e. But here are the money traps. Paka, sameer, nbk, olimpia, access, express. Eapc. IF you buy any of these and you lose your money. Dont say u were not warned.


I was wrong only about access which was sold. NBK! those days it was trading in the 30's. Even though i was an amateur i still had it

Sigh, Access... Sold too early coz I was speculating/trading on the price movements...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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