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I have read somewhere that KENGEN has finally switched off the "expensive" Aggreko diesel generators in Muhoroni and replaced them with "cheaper" Gas fired turbine generators... Does that statement make sensible economic sense? Now Kenya does not produce natural gas so the Gas turbines will most likely be fired from the same diesel fuel the Aggreko ICE were using...we cannot also use cheap HFO since we dont have crude oil locally available cheaply. Techinically,comparing an apple for an apple, Gas turbines are more hungry than ICE when using the same type of fuel. #Home science graduates can skip this discussion.  Portfolio: Sold
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Impunity wrote:I have read somewhere that KENGEN has finally switched off the "expensive" Aggreko diesel generators in Muhoroni and replaced them with "cheaper" Gas fired turbine generators... Does that statement make sensible economic sense? Now Kenya does not produce natural gas so the Gas turbines will most likely be fired from the same diesel fuel the Aggreko ICE were using...we cannot also use cheap HFO since we dont have crude oil locally available cheaply. Techinically,comparing an apple for an apple, Gas turbines are more hungry than ICE when using the same type of fuel. #Home science graduates can skip this discussion. between gas turbines and ice, which one shall cook githeri faster?#homesciencegraduatescomehere
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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mkenyan wrote:Impunity wrote:I have read somewhere that KENGEN has finally switched off the "expensive" Aggreko diesel generators in Muhoroni and replaced them with "cheaper" Gas fired turbine generators... Does that statement make sensible economic sense? Now Kenya does not produce natural gas so the Gas turbines will most likely be fired from the same diesel fuel the Aggreko ICE were using...we cannot also use cheap HFO since we dont have crude oil locally available cheaply. Techinically,comparing an apple for an apple, Gas turbines are more hungry than ICE when using the same type of fuel. #Home science graduates can skip this discussion. between gas turbines and ice, which one shall cook githeri faster?#homesciencegraduatescomehere GT. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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I forgot to mention that #fishmongersarenotallowed. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,884
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Impunity wrote:I forgot to mention that #fishmongersarenotallowed. and which one between the two would ensure swenani eats fish if he were to use it to cook?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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mkenyan wrote:Impunity wrote:I forgot to mention that #fishmongersarenotallowed. and which one between the two would ensure swenani eats fish if he were to use it to cook? Any can do. Please let us not digress...if you are a novice inthis area just keep quiet and read on. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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ounce for ounce gas has more energy to it than the "crude" form of oil used in power generation, gas is also cleaner to burn,more efficient as most is turned to heat energy. To Each His Own
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Impunity wrote:I have read somewhere that KENGEN has finally switched off the "expensive" Aggreko diesel generators in Muhoroni and replaced them with "cheaper" Gas fired turbine generators... Does that statement make sensible economic sense? Now Kenya does not produce natural gas so the Gas turbines will most likely be fired from the same diesel fuel the Aggreko ICE were using...we cannot also use cheap HFO since we dont have crude oil locally available cheaply. Techinically,comparing an apple for an apple, Gas turbines are more hungry than ICE when using the same type of fuel. #Home science graduates can skip this discussion. Where?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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majimaji wrote:Impunity wrote:I have read somewhere that KENGEN has finally switched off the "expensive" Aggreko diesel generators in Muhoroni and replaced them with "cheaper" Gas fired turbine generators... Does that statement make sensible economic sense? Now Kenya does not produce natural gas so the Gas turbines will most likely be fired from the same diesel fuel the Aggreko ICE were using...we cannot also use cheap HFO since we dont have crude oil locally available cheaply. Techinically,comparing an apple for an apple, Gas turbines are more hungry than ICE when using the same type of fuel. #Home science graduates can skip this discussion. Where? Zile gazeti za kufunga nyama za toleo ya leo.  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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kayhara wrote:ounce for ounce gas has more energy to it than the "crude" form of oil used in power generation, gas is also cleaner to burn,more efficient as most is turned to heat energy. pound for pound, gas can be used to power both GT and ICE to produce the desired energy, but GT will consume more energy (GAS) when compared to the same size ICE due to gasses escaping past the turbing blades,GT has low efficiencies when compared to ICE...this is the pricipal reason why #nyoni za jet are more expensive to run when compared to #nyoni za piston engines. Lets wait for someone to come up with KES to KES comparison. Portfolio: Sold
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What about those who used to count people passing outside Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Othelo wrote:What about those who used to count people passing outside The two groups should wait for break time and sell the welders njugu karanga outside the hall. They better spend their time counting those njugus vizuri. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Impunity wrote:kayhara wrote:ounce for ounce gas has more energy to it than the "crude" form of oil used in power generation, gas is also cleaner to burn,more efficient as most is turned to heat energy. pound for pound, gas can be used to power both GT and ICE to produce the desired energy, but GT will consume more energy (GAS) when compared to the same size ICE due to gasses escaping past the turbing blades,GT has low efficiencies when compared to ICE...this is the pricipal reason why #nyoni za jet are more expensive to run when compared to #nyoni za piston engines. Lets wait for someone to come up with KES to KES comparison. Do the math and tell us, how much energy do you extract from LNG 4 same unit cost as diesel
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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limanika wrote:Impunity wrote:kayhara wrote:ounce for ounce gas has more energy to it than the "crude" form of oil used in power generation, gas is also cleaner to burn,more efficient as most is turned to heat energy. pound for pound, gas can be used to power both GT and ICE to produce the desired energy, but GT will consume more energy (GAS) when compared to the same size ICE due to gasses escaping past the turbing blades,GT has low efficiencies when compared to ICE...this is the pricipal reason why #nyoni za jet are more expensive to run when compared to #nyoni za piston engines. Lets wait for someone to come up with KES to KES comparison. Do the math and tell us, how much energy do you extract from LNG 4 same unit cost as diesel Kilo for Kilo, LNG has more energy density than DSL. But we cant opt for it since we dont have natural gas readily available and the cost of buying and transporting it will largely outweigh that of DSL cost! Portfolio: Sold
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