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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss  Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Kq will go under when Kenya will have no government "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Let a CEO with the necessary experience be brought on board and within 2 years more aircrafts will even be inducted without waiting for the ones leased out. Leave the current guy and by 2019 they will be seeking extension of lease or another carrier to lease. Time will tell.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/28/2014 Posts: 149 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation. It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO He is going home...wait and see. I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait. Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels. I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association. He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy. Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers. He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi. He was at all meetings in regards to project mawingu...the mother being one where TN used curse words infront of all managers accusing them of delaying implementation of the strategy...He can have that rosy CV but its time for him to go...even Ciano was well decorated. Ciano had corruption embedded in his DNA. Similar to Naikuni.. Ngunze on the other hand is clean. Being part of a sinking ship does not mean you did not play your role right.. If assigned to check the sail or engine and I do my part.. Why should I suffer from a coxswain error who decided to go rudderless. Further from human psychology, it is not thinkable that he would hold on upto now, if indeed he was guilty of misdemeanours.. Not with the audit and Senate probe ongoing.. Indeed he could eventually be forced to leave by the mobb but I believe he means well for KQ regardless of whether or not he owns shares in the airline.. Though I would prefer that the CEO hold substantial shares to solidify his passion You are aware whose interests the Ngunzes take care of, right? Hint, the other Ngunze is at CBA. @sparkly - I'm curious. Are there some back-able facts you have that lead you to make this statement? When you live for others' opinions, you are dead.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/26/2015 Posts: 1,147
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DBLyon wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation. It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO He is going home...wait and see. I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait. Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels. I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association. He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy. Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers. He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi. He was at all meetings in regards to project mawingu...the mother being one where TN used curse words infront of all managers accusing them of delaying implementation of the strategy...He can have that rosy CV but its time for him to go...even Ciano was well decorated. Ciano had corruption embedded in his DNA. Similar to Naikuni.. Ngunze on the other hand is clean. Being part of a sinking ship does not mean you did not play your role right.. If assigned to check the sail or engine and I do my part.. Why should I suffer from a coxswain error who decided to go rudderless. Further from human psychology, it is not thinkable that he would hold on upto now, if indeed he was guilty of misdemeanours.. Not with the audit and Senate probe ongoing.. Indeed he could eventually be forced to leave by the mobb but I believe he means well for KQ regardless of whether or not he owns shares in the airline.. Though I would prefer that the CEO hold substantial shares to solidify his passion You are aware whose interests the Ngunzes take care of, right? Hint, the other Ngunze is at CBA. @sparkly - I'm curious. Are there some back-able facts you have that lead you to make this statement? on a polite note and no offense , do I need all that info above?. anyway thanks for the information. keep the conversation going. still learning. baby steps... It's not over until I winskype id: karasinga. email: kkarasinga@gmail.com
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,222 Location: nairobi
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karasinga wrote:DBLyon wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation. It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO He is going home...wait and see. I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait. Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels. I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association. He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy. Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers. He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi. He was at all meetings in regards to project mawingu...the mother being one where TN used curse words infront of all managers accusing them of delaying implementation of the strategy...He can have that rosy CV but its time for him to go...even Ciano was well decorated. Ciano had corruption embedded in his DNA. Similar to Naikuni.. Ngunze on the other hand is clean. Being part of a sinking ship does not mean you did not play your role right.. If assigned to check the sail or engine and I do my part.. Why should I suffer from a coxswain error who decided to go rudderless. Further from human psychology, it is not thinkable that he would hold on upto now, if indeed he was guilty of misdemeanours.. Not with the audit and Senate probe ongoing.. Indeed he could eventually be forced to leave by the mobb but I believe he means well for KQ regardless of whether or not he owns shares in the airline.. Though I would prefer that the CEO hold substantial shares to solidify his passion You are aware whose interests the Ngunzes take care of, right? Hint, the other Ngunze is at CBA. @sparkly - I'm curious. Are there some back-able facts you have that lead you to make this statement? on a polite note and no offense , do I need all that info above?. anyway thanks for the information. keep the conversation going. still learning. baby steps... All this information is needed.. Thank us later
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:karasinga wrote:DBLyon wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation. It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO He is going home...wait and see. I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait. Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels. I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association. He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy. Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers. He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi. He was at all meetings in regards to project mawingu...the mother being one where TN used curse words infront of all managers accusing them of delaying implementation of the strategy...He can have that rosy CV but its time for him to go...even Ciano was well decorated. Ciano had corruption embedded in his DNA. Similar to Naikuni.. Ngunze on the other hand is clean. Being part of a sinking ship does not mean you did not play your role right.. If assigned to check the sail or engine and I do my part.. Why should I suffer from a coxswain error who decided to go rudderless. Further from human psychology, it is not thinkable that he would hold on upto now, if indeed he was guilty of misdemeanours.. Not with the audit and Senate probe ongoing.. Indeed he could eventually be forced to leave by the mobb but I believe he means well for KQ regardless of whether or not he owns shares in the airline.. Though I would prefer that the CEO hold substantial shares to solidify his passion You are aware whose interests the Ngunzes take care of, right? Hint, the other Ngunze is at CBA. @sparkly - I'm curious. Are there some back-able facts you have that lead you to make this statement? on a polite note and no offense , do I need all that info above?. anyway thanks for the information. keep the conversation going. still learning. baby steps... All this information is needed.. Thank us later The managers who take care of Kenyatta business interests... Awuondo, Oyatsi,Ngunze brothers and Muhoho (representing the family). Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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mlennyma wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Kq will go under when Kenya will have no government ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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mlennyma wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Kq will go under when Kenya will have no government Yes it can and is long overdue. Mr market just heard you and punched below 3600 with vengeance/ in protest and there isn't a floor on sight - snowballed in despair. this one is frightened fretting grizzly bear and you shouldn't stand on its way down. this co is hanging precariously by the thread, another shocker sucker report by the senate door step and then shit will hit the fan. someone must be sweating it out profusely yapping in dismay over the dismal performance despite sale of pivotal assets to prop up performance. foot notes are not adding up and doctor cook is giving up on doctoring.  ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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muandiwambeu wrote:mlennyma wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Kq will go under when Kenya will have no government Yes it can and is long overdue. Mr market just heard you and punched below 3600 with vengeance/ in protest and there isn't a floor on sight - snowballed in despair. this one is frightened fretting grizzly bear and you shouldn't stand on its way down. this co is hanging precariously by the thread, another shocker sucker report by the senate door step and then shit will hit the fan. someone must be sweating it out profusely yapping in dismay over the dismal performance despite sale of pivotal assets to prop up performance. foot notes are not adding up and doctor cook is giving up on doctoring. I am pretty sure the above observation will send @obiero into the lavatory with loose sh!t. Undoubtedly, it is not yet turnaround! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,222 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mlennyma wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:10 days to go to announce reduced loss Yes Is the reduction in loss sustainable? NO! This should be countered immediately with increase in revenue streams, othewise even 2 bob will be too expensive to buy...most of these reduction in loss is by way of asset sale and asset lease out (bro @Obiero and sister @maka can confirm)...and the lease term are very short, like 3 years on average...so in 2019 most of the assest leased out will be dumped on their doors. Kq will go under when Kenya will have no government Yes it can and is long overdue. Mr market just heard you and punched below 3600 with vengeance/ in protest and there isn't a floor on sight - snowballed in despair. this one is frightened fretting grizzly bear and you shouldn't stand on its way down. this co is hanging precariously by the thread, another shocker sucker report by the senate door step and then shit will hit the fan. someone must be sweating it out profusely yapping in dismay over the dismal performance despite sale of pivotal assets to prop up performance. foot notes are not adding up and doctor cook is giving up on doctoring. I am pretty sure the above observation will send @obiero into the lavatory with loose sh!t. Undoubtedly, it is not yet turnaround! lol
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