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Kenya Power - what's the latest?
watesh
#281 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:15:35 PM
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hisah wrote:
At this level KP is testing multi year support zone clustered from 1996, 1999, 2004, 2005 and 2009 (GFC low). Next critical support level is 8.00 handle if this support level fails. Break below that critical support level opens up a nasty air-pocket to crazy lows last seen between 2000 - 2002 period.

These are the crazy lows we are waiting for
mlennyma
#282 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:49:57 PM
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The latest is a new all time low of 9bob
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Ericsson
#283 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:56:12 PM
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DBLyon
#284 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:12:33 PM
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watesh wrote:
hisah wrote:
At this level KP is testing multi year support zone clustered from 1996, 1999, 2004, 2005 and 2009 (GFC low). Next critical support level is 8.00 handle if this support level fails. Break below that critical support level opens up a nasty air-pocket to crazy lows last seen between 2000 - 2002 period.

These are the crazy lows we are waiting for


I remember the 7/= price in 2002 or thereabouts. And then the crazy rise to 120/=. I wasn't on the bus.smile
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mlennyma
#285 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:17:45 PM
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DBLyon wrote:
watesh wrote:
hisah wrote:
At this level KP is testing multi year support zone clustered from 1996, 1999, 2004, 2005 and 2009 (GFC low). Next critical support level is 8.00 handle if this support level fails. Break below that critical support level opens up a nasty air-pocket to crazy lows last seen between 2000 - 2002 period.

These are the crazy lows we are waiting for


I remember the 7/= price in 2002 or thereabouts. And then the crazy rise to 120/=. I wasn't on the bus.smile

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fabrego
#286 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:21:39 PM
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Their profit growth is slow despite the huge borrowing to fund infrastructure modernization for improved efficiency. If only GoK could allow them to increase tariffsSad Sad .
http://kenyantrader254.s...sector-the-power-players
Ericsson
#287 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:45:10 PM
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@fabrego
Tariifs need not be increased.
Corruption needs to be reduced and efficiency enhanced.
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Othelo
#288 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:49:35 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@fabrego
Tariifs need not be increased.
Corruption needs to be reduced and efficiency enhanced.

How do you enhance what is not there?
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mkate_nusu
#289 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:55:43 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
The latest is a new all time low of 9bob


Those people selling at 9 bob I wonder what price they bought. or they've given up hope on this counter?
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Othelo
#290 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:17:03 PM
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mkate_nusu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The latest is a new all time low of 9bob


Those people selling at 9 bob I wonder what price they bought. or they've given up hope on this counter?

Some people bought this thing at 7bob 2002 onwards to ....126 thereabout before split of 8. Tafakari hayo!!!!
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watesh
#291 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:58:07 PM
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[quote=fabrego]Their profit growth is slow despite the huge borrowing to fund infrastructure modernization for improved efficiency. If only GoK could allow them to increase tariffsSad Sad .
http://kenyantrader254.s...ector-the-power-players[/quote]
Noooo let the tariffs remain low. They increased just recently and they hoarded the cash, no divided increase. Since I pay for power i lose more than i gain from a tariff increase. That dividend will always stay stagnant.
karasinga
#292 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:32:40 PM
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Othelo wrote:
mkate_nusu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The latest is a new all time low of 9bob


Those people selling at 9 bob I wonder what price they bought. or they've given up hope on this counter?

Some people bought this thing at 7bob 2002 onwards to ....126 thereabout before split of 8. Tafakari hayo!!!!


http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...sts&t=33803&p=7
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Kastone
#293 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:54:27 AM
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So KP has an undisclosed debt of Ksh. 383 B!!
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joga bonito
#294 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 10:01:21 AM
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Wooo! 383B how do you even convert that to equity, massive dilution!
moneydust
#295 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 10:58:21 AM
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Kastone wrote:
So KP has an undisclosed debt of Ksh. 383 B!!


What is the source of this information?
Pesa Nane
#296 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:24:42 PM
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moneydust wrote:
Kastone wrote:
So KP has an undisclosed debt of Ksh. 383 B!!


What is the source of this information?


IMF warns of Treasury’s Sh313bn undisclosed Kenya Power debt risk, BD 14.07.16
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Ebenyo
#297 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:38:23 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
moneydust wrote:
Kastone wrote:
So KP has an undisclosed debt of Ksh. 383 B!!


What is the source of this information?


IMF warns of Treasury’s Sh313bn undisclosed Kenya Power debt risk, BD 14.07.16


This is very depressing to the shareholder value.Kenya power is a crippled business entity whose major shareholder,Gok,is using it for propaganda.The business aspect of this company is virtually dead as it lacks robustness.Other shareholdersin this company get little in terms of value.
As things stand,i will avoid this counter for now.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
fabrego
#298 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:47:55 PM
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watesh wrote:
[quote=fabrego]Their profit growth is slow despite the huge borrowing to fund infrastructure modernization for improved efficiency. If only GoK could allow them to increase tariffsSad Sad .
http://kenyantrader254.s...ector-the-power-players[/quote]
Noooo let the tariffs remain low. They increased just recently and they hoarded the cash, no divided increase. Since I pay for power i lose more than i gain from a tariff increase. That dividend will always stay stagnant.


The investor wants to see increase in share value, whether its achieved through increased revenues or lower costs. When kplc requests GoK to allow them raise tariffs, it means they have been unsuccessful at improving efficiency.
fabrego
#299 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:59:11 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@fabrego
Tariifs need not be increased.
Corruption needs to be reduced and efficiency enhanced.

How do you enhance what is not there?


I agree those two items are the problem and they are finding it difficult to contain. Meanwhile debts are piling and revenue growth slow. The market will not be kind to this firm. Funding projects using debt vs higher tariffs? Which creates more value for shareholder?
Remember when Mpesa bank decided to raise call charges against all odds.
mlennyma
#300 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:59:54 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
moneydust wrote:
Kastone wrote:
So KP has an undisclosed debt of Ksh. 383 B!!


What is the source of this information?


IMF warns of Treasury’s Sh313bn undisclosed Kenya Power debt risk, BD 14.07.16

kenya should pay without delay,i don't see a case here,how retrogressive have our people become???let them eat their wind in the name of compensation
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