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obiero		#4691 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 3:51:07 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,219 Location: nairobi		instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake Haha. @lucius speaks with deep passion and insight about KQ.. I love it that someone else has finally seen value where it's apparent KQ ABP 4.26
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sparkly		#4692 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 3:54:21 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		obiero wrote: instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake Haha. @lucius speaks with deep passion and insight about KQ.. I love it that someone else has finally seen value where it's apparent we will not be fooled Life is short. Live passionately.
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obiero		#4693 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 4:50:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,219 Location: nairobi		sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake Haha. @lucius speaks with deep passion and insight about KQ.. I love it that someone else has finally seen value where it's apparent we will not be fooled Lol.. I am loving the drama.. Sijui @lucius ni nani, plug or socket.. I have no info KQ ABP 4.26
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Spikes		#4694 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:47:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake Haha. @lucius speaks with deep passion and insight about KQ.. I love it that someone else has finally seen value where it's apparent we will not be fooled Lol.. I am loving the drama.. Sijui @lucius ni nani, plug or socket.. I have no info Plug+Socket=Shafting. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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MaichBlack		#4695 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 6:07:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,838		instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake I doubt it is the son/daughter! Kids rarely repeat parents mistakes on such issues!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Swenani		#4696 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 6:28:09 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		MaichBlack wrote: instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake I doubt it is the son/daughter! Kids rarely repeat parents mistakes on such issues!!! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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VituVingiSana		#4697 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 6:42:59 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: instinct wrote: obiero wrote: sparkly wrote: Lucius = Obiero. I have evidence Lol ama mtoto wake Haha. @lucius speaks with deep passion and insight about KQ.. I love it that someone else has finally seen value where it's apparent we will not be fooled Some folks are probably getting free upgrades, perks, cash payments, etc for certain PR services for a certain airline. I get these too... as DIVIDENDS, just like other shareholders, from good firms with (IMHO) trust-worthy management. KenRe, Unga, KenolKobil, I&M and Williamson. KenRe - Jadiah Mwarania CEO has 100,000 shares. Unga - The Ndegwas (directors) own 50%. KenolKobil - The major shareholder's reps are on the board. I&M - The Shahs (directors & management) personally own a large stake in the bank. Williamson - The largest shareholder (Magor) is on the board. KQ - Do any of the directors (including Ngunze) have a significant number of shares in their personal [not representing KLM/GoK] capacity? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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muandiwambeu		#4698 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 7:53:46 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247		Lucius wrote: Bwana Obiero, asante kwa makaribisho. Akina Plimsoul and Muandiwambeu, I speak of what I know and what my right/flawed mind can project based on the information at hand, both public and private. I can be wrong, i can be right-who knows! Watch this space. Come next year this time if am wrong am ready to buy a mbuzi and apologize mbele ya kikao cha wazee. I will be the chair to this kanyiri thing. ie chief whip or fimboo,,,o chapa ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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maka		#4699 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:52:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: Lucius wrote: Hello good people. Am new here. I wish to add my voice to the KQ debate. Sorry if I repeat what others may have said before-would take me a week to go through the whole thread. 1. Its a fact that KQ is in a very bad position financially. 2. KQ is not going to die. It has hit rock bottom, it can't go any lower. It will either flatten out or improve. 3. The share price is definitely going to rise over the coming year, so if you're buying buy now-but buy to sell. Dividends ziko mbali bado. 4. We should expect a 7-10b full year loss, unless the're other savings I am not privy to. 5. With the fuel hedge in its last months, the financial position of the company will improve significantly over the coming year. I project a at least 30% improvement, with a 1-2b loss half year loss and 200-500m profit for full year 2017. As for the leadership, Mbuvi is the right guy for the job. He shall turn around KQ. Suppliers love his humility. Employees say that he is accessible. For the retrenchment, i still wonder who the 80 are. Almost all departments are said to be understaffed, people working overtime, with departments like engineering experiencing high staff losses to the middle east carriers. What informs you to say Mbuvi is the right guy? You say he is endorsing retrenchment as per the turnaround plan blindly just to make savings yet the Company is understaffed and employees still say he is accessible? You expect a profit in 2017 yet analysts as per a report sighted here indicates that the loss position will have just eased in that year. What informs this kind of thinking???? BTW KQ 600 has turned to KQ 300. ..btw most of the 80 were in managerial levels next week on Tue H9 and below that's where the blood bath will be... possunt quia posse videntur
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obiero		#4700 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 1:15:33 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,219 Location: nairobi		maka wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: Lucius wrote: Hello good people. Am new here. I wish to add my voice to the KQ debate. Sorry if I repeat what others may have said before-would take me a week to go through the whole thread. 1. Its a fact that KQ is in a very bad position financially. 2. KQ is not going to die. It has hit rock bottom, it can't go any lower. It will either flatten out or improve. 3. The share price is definitely going to rise over the coming year, so if you're buying buy now-but buy to sell. Dividends ziko mbali bado. 4. We should expect a 7-10b full year loss, unless the're other savings I am not privy to. 5. With the fuel hedge in its last months, the financial position of the company will improve significantly over the coming year. I project a at least 30% improvement, with a 1-2b loss half year loss and 200-500m profit for full year 2017. As for the leadership, Mbuvi is the right guy for the job. He shall turn around KQ. Suppliers love his humility. Employees say that he is accessible. For the retrenchment, i still wonder who the 80 are. Almost all departments are said to be understaffed, people working overtime, with departments like engineering experiencing high staff losses to the middle east carriers. What informs you to say Mbuvi is the right guy? You say he is endorsing retrenchment as per the turnaround plan blindly just to make savings yet the Company is understaffed and employees still say he is accessible? You expect a profit in 2017 yet analysts as per a report sighted here indicates that the loss position will have just eased in that year. What informs this kind of thinking???? BTW KQ 600 has turned to KQ 300. ..btw most of the 80 were in managerial levels next week on Tue H9 and below that's where the blood bath will be... @maka it's still KQ 600.. KQ ABP 4.26
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