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Jitahidi
#41 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 12:33:33 PM
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heri wrote:
i found the Bahati land too far and in my view there are better investment opportunities available. i think its good for them to buy places that have better potential rather than just buying anything and anywhere

Thanks for this...I will also keep off..Mhasibu sent an email yesterday asking Juja I members to avail PIN, ID copies & 3 passports by 2pm today. I found one day notice unrealistic
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bird_man
#42 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 12:35:13 PM
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heri wrote:
i found the Bahati land too far and in my view there are better investment opportunities available. i think its good for them to buy places that have better potential rather than just buying anything and anywhere


Too far from?Perhaps its targeted at Nakuru members since its about 22Km from Nakuru town.Plus "areas with potential" are always much more expensive.So the Saccos/Investment Coops love land that is affordable to many many members.That is how they make a profit.
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heri
#43 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 12:42:49 PM
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fine. let them make a profit but not at my expense. Anyway i know people will still buy but i keep off this one.
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PeterReborn
#44 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 4:26:25 PM
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heri wrote:
fine. let them make a profit but not at my expense. Anyway i know people will still buy but i keep off this one.

I was also in Bahati and I agree with you.The road is a nightmare and the surrounding environment seems dormant.I think the Kabarak ones were a better bet.
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#45 Posted : Friday, May 09, 2014 4:21:03 PM
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bird_man wrote:
heri wrote:
i found the Bahati land too far and in my view there are better investment opportunities available. i think its good for them to buy places that have better potential rather than just buying anything and anywhere


Too far from?Perhaps its targeted at Nakuru members since its about 22Km from Nakuru town.Plus "areas with potential" are always much more expensive.So the Saccos/Investment Coops love land that is affordable to many many members.That is how they make a profit.


Agree with Heri, unless you are buying that land for farming, its a no-no for me, it will take centuries before you get a good road, electricity and water. Plus disposing off that land will not be easy.
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kangi
#46 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29:22 PM
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I was thinking, assuming that road was tarmacked (though it seems unlikely in the near future) perhaps it may change the situation. But all the same I think the main beneficiary will be the society. I also have my reservation about it especially the asking price does not match the expectation.
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Jitahidi
#47 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 11:14:21 AM
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Discussion on this matter was over 1 year ago. Its now over 5 years since we bought Mhasibu Juja plots and no title deeds. Any new development?
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Capri
#48 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:51:05 PM
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Received below status update today..

PROJECT EXPECTE RECEIVED COLLECTED REMAINING TITLE STATUS
RUNDA 237 237 220 17 TITLES READY FOR COLLECTION
RUIRU 1 480 72 0 408 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
RUIRU 2 339 0 0 339 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
JUJA 1 1428 0 0 1428 TITLE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO NATIONAL TITLING CENTER FOR PROCESSING
JUJA 2 627 0 0 627 COURT CASE STILL ON GOING
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Gathige
#49 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:20:12 PM
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Capri wrote:
Received below status update today..

PROJECT EXPECTE RECEIVED COLLECTED REMAINING TITLE STATUS
RUNDA 237 237 220 17 TITLES READY FOR COLLECTION
RUIRU 1 480 72 0 408 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
RUIRU 2 339 0 0 339 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
JUJA 1 1428 0 0 1428 TITLE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO NATIONAL TITLING CENTER FOR PROCESSING
JUJA 2 627 0 0 627 COURT CASE STILL ON GOING





Polite way of saying, Mjipange. Mashamba cases can take forever especially that part of town.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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enyands
#50 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2016 4:48:29 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Capri wrote:
Received below status update today..

PROJECT EXPECTE RECEIVED COLLECTED REMAINING TITLE STATUS
RUNDA 237 237 220 17 TITLES READY FOR COLLECTION
RUIRU 1 480 72 0 408 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
RUIRU 2 339 0 0 339 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
JUJA 1 1428 0 0 1428 TITLE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO NATIONAL TITLING CENTER FOR PROCESSING
JUJA 2 627 0 0 627 COURT CASE STILL ON GOING





Polite way of saying, Mjipange. Mashamba cases can take forever especially that part of town.



Aaii kwani even saccos have issues with their proti.i thought they do their due deligence before purchases are made?
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Gathige
#51 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2016 7:28:18 PM
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OS NAMES OF PROJECT TOTAL NOS. OF TITLES EXPECTED RECEIVED  COLLECTED TITLES REMAINING TITLES PROJECT TITLE STATUS
TITLES
1 RUNDA 237 237 220 17 TITLES READY FOR COLLECTION
2 RUIRU 1 480 72 0 408 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
3 RUIRU 2 339 0 0 339 REGISTRATION & TRANSFER STAGE
4 JUJA 1 1428 0 0 1428 TITLE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO NATIONAL TITLING CENTER FOR PROCESSING
5 JUJA 2 627 0 0 627 COURT CASE STILL ON GOING
6 KISERIAN 110 0 0 110 COURT CASE STILL ON GOING
7 KISAJU 376 376 362 14 READY FOR COLLECTION
8 MWIKI 1 375 0 0 375 AT TRANSFER STAGE AWAITING MOTHER TITLE TO BE RELEASED BY THE BANK
9 MWIKI 2 91 0 0 91 AT TRANSFER STAGE AWAITING MOTHER TITLE TO BE RELEASED BY THE BANK
10 ISINYA 350 157 0 193 REMAINING TITLES STILL IN PROCESS AT ISINYA LANDS OFFICE
11 NAKURU 1 652 0 0 652 SIGNING OF CONVEYANCING DOCUMENTS BY CLIENTS IN PROGRESS
12 NAKURU 2 176 0 0 176 SURVEY PLAN SCHEME APPROVED
13 KANTAFU 104 104 53 51 TITLES READY FOR COLLECTION
14 NYERI 12 0 0 12 LAND TITLES ARE READY FOR PROCESSING AT MHASIBU INVESTMENT
15 RUIRU 3 175 0 0 175 SUB-DIVISION SCHEME:- SIGNED AND BOOKED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT
16 ISIOLO 250 0 0 250 SUB-DIVISION OF PLOTS ONGOING
17 NAKURU 3 280 0 0 280 SALES OF PLOTS STILL ONGOING
TOTALS 6062 946 635 5198
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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marco-polo
#52 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2016 8:20:51 AM
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I paid for Ruiru 3 one and a half years ago did plot selection in September last year, all payments made, no activity on site, office giving minimum information on progress. My worry is considering Ruiru 1 and 2 titles are yet to be processed, yet the project were sold over five years ago, titles for Ruiru 3 may come out in 2025!!!

~RUIRU 3 175 0 0 175 SUB-DIVISION SCHEME:- SIGNED AND BOOKED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT~ ?????? I don't understand how it takes almost a year for subdivision plan approval.
if they are stuck, they should inform us for assistance where possible.
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enyands
#53 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2016 8:28:13 AM
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marco-polo wrote:
I paid for Ruiru 3 one and a half years ago did plot selection in September last year, all payments made, no activity on site, office giving minimum information on progress. My worry is considering Ruiru 1 and 2 titles are yet to be processed, yet the project were sold over five years ago, titles for Ruiru 3 may come out in 2025!!!

~RUIRU 3 175 0 0 175 SUB-DIVISION SCHEME:- SIGNED AND BOOKED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT~ ?????? I don't understand how it takes almost a year for subdivision plan approval.
if they are stuck, they should inform us for assistance where possible.


Seems you don't understand how things are done here. Sorry some of us have been waiting for titles from UoN sacco since 2009 till this days we go to their offices and help them come up with new lies since they ran out of them
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marco-polo
#54 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2016 9:20:58 AM
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I am a member and have bought two plots from stima investment in Juja, their titles come out within 1 and a years-so don't blame the county government-.No hustles, step by step information on inquiry. But for mhasibu they specialize in keeping people in the dark. the lady at the reception has no idea what is going on, the guys with information are never available.
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Gathige
#55 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2016 1:29:48 PM
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enyands wrote:
marco-polo wrote:
I paid for Ruiru 3 one and a half years ago did plot selection in September last year, all payments made, no activity on site, office giving minimum information on progress. My worry is considering Ruiru 1 and 2 titles are yet to be processed, yet the project were sold over five years ago, titles for Ruiru 3 may come out in 2025!!!

~RUIRU 3 175 0 0 175 SUB-DIVISION SCHEME:- SIGNED AND BOOKED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT~ ?????? I don't understand how it takes almost a year for subdivision plan approval.
if they are stuck, they should inform us for assistance where possible.


Seems you don't understand how things are done here. Sorry some of us have been waiting for titles from UoN sacco since 2009 till this days we go to their offices and help them come up with new lies since they ran out of them


So true. A lie repeated many times can sound like the truth.

"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Thiong'o
#56 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 12:49:57 PM
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Gathige wrote:
enyands wrote:
marco-polo wrote:
I paid for Ruiru 3 one and a half years ago did plot selection in September last year, all payments made, no activity on site, office giving minimum information on progress. My worry is considering Ruiru 1 and 2 titles are yet to be processed, yet the project were sold over five years ago, titles for Ruiru 3 may come out in 2025!!!

~RUIRU 3 175 0 0 175 SUB-DIVISION SCHEME:- SIGNED AND BOOKED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT~ ?????? I don't understand how it takes almost a year for subdivision plan approval.
if they are stuck, they should inform us for assistance where possible.


Seems you don't understand how things are done here. Sorry some of us have been waiting for titles from UoN sacco since 2009 till this days we go to their offices and help them come up with new lies since they ran out of them


So true. A lie repeated many times can sound like the truth.


In Mhasibu AGM, members raising lots of queries on the housing company, no clear answers seem forthcoming.
17 projects, 3 in court almost all projects incomplete, a fraud case.This is a mess.
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MaichBlack
#57 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:05:17 PM
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You guys are being taken for a ride. Juja/Thika/Ruiru titles are normally out in a couple of days/weeks without pushing - freehold titles.

Are the title freehold or leasehold?? Leasehold ndio shida kiasi!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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enyands
#58 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 4:58:27 PM
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marco-polo wrote:
I am a member and have bought two plots from stima investment in Juja, their titles come out within 1 and a years-so don't blame the county government-.No hustles, step by step information on inquiry. But for mhasibu they specialize in keeping people in the dark. the lady at the reception has no idea what is going on, the guys with information are never available.


Is she the same person called Lilian? Then if she is the one She is super rude. I pity her hubby if she is lucky to have one . Man she made me feel sorry why I called her to ask her how to become a member . Thank God she showed me what was to come so no need to bother .
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Thiong'o
#59 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 10:06:22 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
You guys are being take for a ride. Juja/Thika/Ruiru titles are normally out in a couple of days/weeks without pushing - freehold titles.

Are the title freehold or leasehold?? Leasehold ndio shida kiasi!

We noted concerns on the directors in the housing being executive directors- they have other fulltime job's.
These Directors in the housing company are appointed by the SACCO board and there are accountability issues since they don't report to members and what's the practice with other SACCO's heavily invested in land? Do they have to form subsidiary companies?
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MaichBlack
#60 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:17:27 PM
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Thiong'o wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
You guys are being take for a ride. Juja/Thika/Ruiru titles are normally out in a couple of days/weeks without pushing - freehold titles.

Are the title freehold or leasehold?? Leasehold ndio shida kiasi!

We noted concerns on the directors in the housing being executive directors- they have other fulltime job's.
These Directors in the housing company are appointed by the SACCO board and there are accountability issues since they don't report to members and what's the practice with other SACCO's heavily invested in land? Do they have to form subsidiary companies?

In most cases Housing/Investment and Sacco should be independent of each other with different directors and all. That is the model adopted by most successful entities.

The Housing/Investment wing focuses on investments and the Sacco focuses on savings and loans. Members should ideally belong to both (independently). They benefit from discounted prices and dividends from the investment/housing wing and benefit from loans and dividends from the Sacco.

Combining Housing/Investment and Sacco is always a mess. For starters, Saccos main mandate is to provide members' with CHEAP credit while the investments wing is to MAXIMIZE members' returns!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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