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murchr
#541 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 12:40:35 AM
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Co-operative Bank has overtaken Standard Chartered in terms of return on equity (ROE) or shareholders’ funds among the top five commercial lenders.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#542 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 1:26:44 AM
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murchr wrote:


Co-operative Bank has overtaken Standard Chartered in terms of return on equity (ROE) or shareholders’ funds among the top five commercial lenders.

Coop Bank will become Kenyas largest bank sooner than most know.. The percentages in growth are clear

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watesh
#543 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 2:32:20 AM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:


Co-operative Bank has overtaken Standard Chartered in terms of return on equity (ROE) or shareholders’ funds among the top five commercial lenders.

Coop Bank will become Kenyas largest bank sooner than most know.. The percentages in growth are clear

I prefer looking at growth in incomes...costs can be fluctuated easier than income
FY 2015 Growth in Incomes
Net Interest Income
KCB +3.3bn
Equity +4.9bn
Co-op +1.2bn

Non funded income
KCB +0.5bn
Equity +3.4bn
Co-op +2.56bn

Total Income
KCB +3.8bn
Equity +8.3bn
Co-op +3.7bn

Co-op might have to try harder to be the biggest bank but it does have the muscle. Last year Co-op had a major one off cost of retirement cost of 1.34 and this suppressed profits. Anyway the growth in profits was still spectacular even if you factor out the one off cost.
This year, Equity had a huge one off IT upgrading and marketing cost (Equitel)
KCB i havnt heard of any huge one off costs
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murchr
#544 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2016 4:00:40 AM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:


Co-operative Bank has overtaken Standard Chartered in terms of return on equity (ROE) or shareholders’ funds among the top five commercial lenders.

Coop Bank will become Kenyas largest bank sooner than most know.. The percentages in growth are clear


Are you still planning to sell?
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obiero
#545 Posted : Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:28:31 AM
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enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

Coop bank as of last week now has higher market share as well as capital than KCB

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obiero
#546 Posted : Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:47:32 AM
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enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day


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obiero
#547 Posted : Sunday, July 03, 2016 8:51:33 AM
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Posts: 14,211
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enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

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Ericsson
#548 Posted : Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:41:55 PM
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COOP is targeting ksh.20bn profit before tax for year 2016
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#549 Posted : Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:46:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
COOP is targeting ksh.20bn profit before tax for year 2016

It is likely to get and exceed

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Ericsson
#550 Posted : Monday, July 04, 2016 1:30:41 AM
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@Obiero
sh.18bn profit before tax will be a hard nut to crack.
I don't see it's profit reaching 20bn ata 18bn before tax coop won't manage.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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