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sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless  And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! And some fellow is justifying the theft using "net tax consumers" mambo jambo!!! What do you do if your neighbours place is being robbed?? Even someone who doesn't pay taxes (unemployed etc. - not the evaders) should be up in arms because of this thuggery. They will participate in the loan repayment one day!! It is common knowledge that there is theft of public resources. The biggest thieves are your tribesmen and villagemates, appointed by your tribal Lord. The tribal Lord voted by you and your tyrannical numbers. It's common knowledge. Your Wazua handle betrays you. As for me, I will not come to Wazua blue section and shout money has been stolen without proof of what, when and how it has been stolen. In the green section you may but not in the blue section. If admin can move the thread to the green section, it will get the discussion it merits. I didn't imagine this was possible but I now have an even lower opinion of you @sparkly!!! I didn't imagine it could go lower!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,845
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sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! @Maich how can we help you if only see the loans that you and your kids will repay and not the economic prosperity and higher standards of life my kids will enjoy? I leave you with two powerful quotes- "The cynic knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" - Oscar Wilde It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, - Theodore Roosevelt I have a number of words that describe you but let me not use them. What is the value of STOLEN MONEY. What value should I see in money that is borrowed, stolen and then Kenyans are left with decades of repayment bills. Is it that you don't understand stuff or you just want to be a nuisance??? The issue is not loans. The issue is that they are stolen!!! And we will be left paying for money that ended in people's pockets!!! @Sparkly - Read this and tell me what the value is!! This is what happens. We continue to LITERALLY pay for corruption long after the corrupt dealings!!!Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,845
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The cost quoted here DOES NOT include compensation for land unless that is being done by foreign contractors nowadays. We have pointed that out a couple of times. But of course compensation is one of the avenues used to steal from the tax payer and as a result, we can expect MORE money to be stolen from the tax payers. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! And some fellow is justifying the theft using "net tax consumers" mambo jambo!!! What do you do if your neighbours place is being robbed?? Even someone who doesn't pay taxes (unemployed etc. - not the evaders) should be up in arms because of this thuggery. They will participate in the loan repayment one day!! It is common knowledge that there is theft of public resources. The biggest thieves are your tribesmen and villagemates, appointed by your tribal Lord. The tribal Lord voted by you and your tyrannical numbers. It's common knowledge. Your Wazua handle betrays you. As for me, I will not come to Wazua blue section and shout money has been stolen without proof of what, when and how it has been stolen. In the green section you may but not in the blue section. If admin can move the thread to the green section, it will get the discussion it merits. I didn't imagine this was possible but I now have an even lower opinion of you @sparkly!!! I didn't imagine it could go lower!!! Why are you pretending to be in Utopia? The corruption you speak of is by your tribesmen who are in power. Go tell them to return our money ala! Life is short. Live passionately.
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sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! And some fellow is justifying the theft using "net tax consumers" mambo jambo!!! What do you do if your neighbours place is being robbed?? Even someone who doesn't pay taxes (unemployed etc. - not the evaders) should be up in arms because of this thuggery. They will participate in the loan repayment one day!! It is common knowledge that there is theft of public resources. The biggest thieves are your tribesmen and villagemates, appointed by your tribal Lord. The tribal Lord voted by you and your tyrannical numbers. It's common knowledge. Your Wazua handle betrays you. As for me, I will not come to Wazua blue section and shout money has been stolen without proof of what, when and how it has been stolen. In the green section you may but not in the blue section. If admin can move the thread to the green section, it will get the discussion it merits. I didn't imagine this was possible but I now have an even lower opinion of you @sparkly!!! I didn't imagine it could go lower!!! Why are you pretending to be in Utopia? The corruption you speak of is by your tribesmen who are in power. Go tell them to return our money ala! Sparkly this is going too far man . Now you are being tribalist .just look at facts ,critisizing facts and not tribes .I don't think your tribe is that white too. So let's be grown up man.infact MaichBlack is not tribalist because he is critisizing "his tribe " according to you since you know him well per se. Stop escalating issues .makes us look like high school boys 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! @Maich how can we help you if only see the loans that you and your kids will repay and not the economic prosperity and higher standards of life my kids will enjoy? I leave you with two powerful quotes- "The cynic knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" - Oscar Wilde It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, - Theodore Roosevelt I have a number of words that describe you but let me not use them. What is the value of STOLEN MONEY. What value should I see in money that is borrowed, stolen and then Kenyans are left with decades of repayment bills. Is it that you don't understand stuff or you just want to be a nuisance??? The issue is not loans. The issue is that they are stolen!!! And we will be left paying for money that ended in people's pockets!!! @Sparkly - Read this and tell me what the value is!! This is what happens. We continue to LITERALLY pay for corruption long after the corrupt dealings!!! The real beneficiaries are known. The Indians are just conduits. Tell us who the biggest thieves are in this country. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,845
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enyands wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! And some fellow is justifying the theft using "net tax consumers" mambo jambo!!! What do you do if your neighbours place is being robbed?? Even someone who doesn't pay taxes (unemployed etc. - not the evaders) should be up in arms because of this thuggery. They will participate in the loan repayment one day!! It is common knowledge that there is theft of public resources. The biggest thieves are your tribesmen and villagemates, appointed by your tribal Lord. The tribal Lord voted by you and your tyrannical numbers. It's common knowledge. Your Wazua handle betrays you. As for me, I will not come to Wazua blue section and shout money has been stolen without proof of what, when and how it has been stolen. In the green section you may but not in the blue section. If admin can move the thread to the green section, it will get the discussion it merits. I didn't imagine this was possible but I now have an even lower opinion of you @sparkly!!! I didn't imagine it could go lower!!! Why are you pretending to be in Utopia? The corruption you speak of is by your tribesmen who are in power. Go tell them to return our money ala! Sparkly this is going too far man . Now you are being tribalist .just look at facts ,critisizing facts and not tribes .I don't think your tribe is that white too. So let's be grown up man.infact MaichBlack is not tribalist because he is critisizing "his tribe " according to you since you know him well per se. Stop escalating issues .makes us look like high school boys This fellow doesn't even know me. How can he purport to know my tribe?? And what does tribe have to do with anything??? The fellow is actually the one who is supporting inflated contracts while I am on the other side!!! And because he has no points or ideas, he starts talking tribes like a class two drop out. Someone once said: "Hakuna kitu mbaya kama kukonda akili!!!" Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MaichBlack wrote:enyands wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Othelo wrote:Reading comments supporting how Government of Kenya public infrastructure projects are undertaken in cost effective manner is amusing. Even using timeframe alone, they cannot pass the test!!! Anyway see no evil, hear no evil. Good thing is we all bear the cost, some how, regardless And our kids too @Othelo given the loans the current government is taking right left and center. Hata hiyo 1 Billion per kilometre ni loan. Sema kuibiwa in the future!!! Your future taxes have already been stolen!!! Na za watoto wako pia!!! And some fellow is justifying the theft using "net tax consumers" mambo jambo!!! What do you do if your neighbours place is being robbed?? Even someone who doesn't pay taxes (unemployed etc. - not the evaders) should be up in arms because of this thuggery. They will participate in the loan repayment one day!! It is common knowledge that there is theft of public resources. The biggest thieves are your tribesmen and villagemates, appointed by your tribal Lord. The tribal Lord voted by you and your tyrannical numbers. It's common knowledge. Your Wazua handle betrays you. As for me, I will not come to Wazua blue section and shout money has been stolen without proof of what, when and how it has been stolen. In the green section you may but not in the blue section. If admin can move the thread to the green section, it will get the discussion it merits. I didn't imagine this was possible but I now have an even lower opinion of you @sparkly!!! I didn't imagine it could go lower!!! Why are you pretending to be in Utopia? The corruption you speak of is by your tribesmen who are in power. Go tell them to return our money ala! Sparkly this is going too far man . Now you are being tribalist .just look at facts ,critisizing facts and not tribes .I don't think your tribe is that white too. So let's be grown up man.infact MaichBlack is not tribalist because he is critisizing "his tribe " according to you since you know him well per se. Stop escalating issues .makes us look like high school boys This fellow doesn't even know me. How can he purport to know my tribe?? And what does tribe have to do with anything??? The fellow is actually the one who is supporting inflated contracts while I am on the other side!!! And because he has no points or ideas, he starts talking tribes like a class two drop out. Someone once said: "Hakuna kitu mbaya kama kukonda akili!!!" Leta matusi yote. The truth is known who the thieves are. I challenge you to expand the list beyond waikuru, whom you have already named. akili yangu imekonda, yako imenona yaani "thick" Life is short. Live passionately.
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Waaah!!!! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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@maichblack, don't bother to respond to @sparkly anymore.
It's not worth it. He is either a member of the eating cabal (highly doubt it ), or one of those delusional sycophants.
Either way, the argument can only go downhill.
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