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Will only christians enter the kingdom of heaven??
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sheep
#11 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:02:11 AM
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@fundaah and muganda,

very true,Billy Graham tried to say these things but the amount of flak he received from the myopic churchy Christians was unbelievable.People said he denied Christ was the only way labelled him Antichrist.

However Jesus is the only guaranteed way.True Christians will never undergo the white throne judgement.Their judgement will be of their works but shall never be in danger of hell coz of the blood.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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radio
#12 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17:20 AM
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@all... Applause Applause Applause great discussion.

@muganda... pls clarify something for me... does this mean everyone will be judged by what the believe ie they are a law to themselves
muganda wrote:


Romans 2:12-15 God’s Judgment and the Law
.... For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
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chepkel
#13 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:25:07 AM
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I agree with Muganda. I think we will all be judged according to what we believe. But then if at any one time we have doubts about what we believe then we must act on these doubts and try to seek the truth. If we do not act on finding a true path then we will be trouble.
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Sheila
#14 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:37:06 AM
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@Muganda

I agree with you completely.

I am a Christian but like someone pointed out earlier, if I was born in Saudi Arabia, I'd most likely be a Muslim. It therefore doesn't seem 'fair' that heaven will only be for those 'lucky' enough to have been born in primarily Christian countries.
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gaza
#15 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:46:27 AM
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There is no kingdom...no heaven...hell is here. why worry yourself? just live and enjoy life. after you are dead, you decompose and that's it...from your fossils people get oil and life goes on until 2012.(earthquakes and volcanoes everywhere...plus other scientific evidence) so relax...stop torturing yourself, the world will do that for you very soon.
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masukuma
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:14:27 PM
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@chepkel, you could be believing in something that is sincerely wrong!! @Sheila, as much as it sounds bad...you know heaven is not for everyone . Its up to you who has heard the gospel to save your neck. God will know what to do with the rest of the poor souls born in Nepal or Tibet who has never heard the word.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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leona
#17 Posted : Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:29:31 PM
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And in as much as you hear and spread the gospel,live it! It makes no sense for one to hear the gospel,preach it,but live a totally different life all together. There's a verse somewhere in the bible that says 'Faith without action is dead'. Read your bible,Listen to the gospel..but MOST important of all,LIVE your life according to God's word.
Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
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the sage
#18 Posted : Friday, April 23, 2010 6:19:21 AM
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@All, Gaza is right.

"If he is supreme, why does he allow evil to exist?"
"So that each man can make his choice"
"If I were a supreme deity, I wouldn't go to the trouble of creating
either evil man or anything at all that was not entirely pleasing to
me. I'm afraid when it comes to explaining your supreme deity, you're obliged to work backwards. Evil exists. You cannot explain why. So you turn your creator into an evil sportsman who plays games with human life. Will they or won't they be obedient? Shall I or shall I not torture them? Dear child, it's all too primitive."

Creation by Gore Vidal

A church is a place in which gentlemen who have never been to heaven brag about it to persons who will never get there.
H. L. Mencken



A church is a place in which gentlemen who have never been to heaven brag about it to persons who will never get there.
H. L. Mencken
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Wendz
#19 Posted : Friday, April 23, 2010 7:36:57 AM
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@Gaza & Sage

I would want to believe you but because you do not have something to prove there is no heaven just as i may not scientifically prove there is, i would rather live my life like there is heaven and be surprised that it is not there than live my life like it is not there, and get a rude shock when it actually turns out to be there(someone said)...

But i have my unanswered questions about this whole heaven issue.... the most important being, what will happen to our ancestors who died after Jesus but never knew of him and hence, their culture dictated that they sometimes did not live by the "law"... eg, they had to go raid other villages and in the process kill a few fellas but that was culture and their supreme being was ok with that.... just as the Muslim supreme being is ok with the holy war.
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