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kayhara
#431 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:07:23 AM
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Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
chemirocha wrote:
[quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]Creditcard skimmers beware of them

https://web.facebook.com...96608530444187&_rdr[/quote]

As long as you keep your PIN secure, modern EMV cards are immune to card skimming. The Americans are the only ones still using the old generation cards.

But I have noted a couple of times Naivas just swipe my CFC card even though it has the chip, when they swipe there is no oin option,does this mean the cards are still unsafe?
To Each His Own
Speculz
#432 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:34:29 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/6/2011
Posts: 391
Location: Nairobi
kayhara wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
[quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]Creditcard skimmers beware of them

https://web.facebook.com...96608530444187&_rdr[/quote]

As long as you keep your PIN secure, modern EMV cards are immune to card skimming. The Americans are the only ones still using the old generation cards.

But I have noted a couple of times Naivas just swipe my CFC card even though it has the chip, when they swipe there is no oin option,does this mean the cards are still unsafe?


Your bank card or the loyalty card?
"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
Impunity
#433 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:46:10 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Speculz wrote:
kayhara wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
[quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]Creditcard skimmers beware of them

https://web.facebook.com...96608530444187&_rdr[/quote]

As long as you keep your PIN secure, modern EMV cards are immune to card skimming. The Americans are the only ones still using the old generation cards.

But I have noted a couple of times Naivas just swipe my CFC card even though it has the chip, when they swipe there is no oin option,does this mean the cards are still unsafe?


Your bank card or the loyalty card?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

But the even today most of the loyalty cards use the "chip"...my Naivas has chip.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Speculz
#434 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:52:00 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/6/2011
Posts: 391
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Speculz wrote:
kayhara wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
[quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]Creditcard skimmers beware of them

https://web.facebook.com...96608530444187&_rdr[/quote]

As long as you keep your PIN secure, modern EMV cards are immune to card skimming. The Americans are the only ones still using the old generation cards.

But I have noted a couple of times Naivas just swipe my CFC card even though it has the chip, when they swipe there is no oin option,does this mean the cards are still unsafe?


Your bank card or the loyalty card?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

But the even today most of the loyalty cards use the "chip"...my Naivas has chip.


I know that, I asked a specific question bank card or loyalty card .Just because a loyalty card has a chip does not automatically mean it has a pin enabled on it. Final authentication can be pin,signature or biometric.

For Naivas - The loyalty card uses a bank branded card ( issued by Naivas) ,not to be confused with a bank issued card which will always use either of the three methods above before a transaction is carried out.
"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
Obi 1 Kanobi
#435 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:08:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,017
FRM2011 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Folks I've noticed no one is talking about the lawyer who was abducted together with his client and driver.

Guess by now we are honest to admit that chances of the guys being found alive are quite slim indeed. Glad Lsk and Knhcr are piling pressure.

Am throwing an open question here especially to security experts. Is there wisdom in "cooperating" with armed thugs as we are usually advised by cops. These guys were taken in broad daylight !

A few months ago, two guys were abducted at kikopey at 11am in broad daylight in front of very many witnesses. Their bodies were found later that evening.

Four terrorists did the worst at Garissa university college. It's said they lured very many young girls out of their hiding places by lieing that they don't kill women and children. And so they moved from room to room. Can't imagine the terror as those kids waited for the inevitable. And can't help but wonder what if someone had fought back.

Love watching crime & investigations channel 170 and am convinced accepting to be abducted and hoping for the best from the thugs isn't a very smart strategy.

But am saying this from the comfort of my sitting room.

Maybe there is a wazua who can give a better perspective informed by expertise.


What's the case about? Are they the plaintiffs or defendants?


It's pretty scary actually. The client was accused in a criminal case for bhang possession. But his claim was that an AP officer had shot him over a personal grudge. He had filled the case with IPOA and had reported threats from the officer telling him to drop the case.


"Our thugs" in this instance must be cops. Including a police system that refuses to check an errant member even when they have potentially committed kidnap and possible murder
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Jump-steady
#436 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:06:11 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Folks I've noticed no one is talking about the lawyer who was abducted together with his client and driver.

Guess by now we are honest to admit that chances of the guys being found alive are quite slim indeed. Glad Lsk and Knhcr are piling pressure.

Am throwing an open question here especially to security experts. Is there wisdom in "cooperating" with armed thugs as we are usually advised by cops. These guys were taken in broad daylight !

A few months ago, two guys were abducted at kikopey at 11am in broad daylight in front of very many witnesses. Their bodies were found later that evening.

Four terrorists did the worst at Garissa university college. It's said they lured very many young girls out of their hiding places by lieing that they don't kill women and children. And so they moved from room to room. Can't imagine the terror as those kids waited for the inevitable. And can't help but wonder what if someone had fought back.

Love watching crime & investigations channel 170 and am convinced accepting to be abducted and hoping for the best from the thugs isn't a very smart strategy.

But am saying this from the comfort of my sitting room.

Maybe there is a wazua who can give a better perspective informed by expertise.


What's the case about? Are they the plaintiffs or defendants?


It's pretty scary actually. The client was accused in a criminal case for bhang possession. But his claim was that an AP officer had shot him over a personal grudge. He had filled the case with IPOA and had reported threats from the officer telling him to drop the case.


"Our thugs" in this instance must be cops. Including a police system that refuses to check an errant member even when they have potentially committed kidnap and possible murder


Yup! They are cops, in most instances. If not, then ex-cops working closely with the official ones. That is what i would like believe. Our Police are rotten to the core!
Impunity
#437 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 5:39:10 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Speculz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Speculz wrote:
kayhara wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
[quote=Cornelius Vanderbilt]Creditcard skimmers beware of them

https://web.facebook.com...96608530444187&_rdr[/quote]

As long as you keep your PIN secure, modern EMV cards are immune to card skimming. The Americans are the only ones still using the old generation cards.

But I have noted a couple of times Naivas just swipe my CFC card even though it has the chip, when they swipe there is no oin option,does this mean the cards are still unsafe?


Your bank card or the loyalty card?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

But the even today most of the loyalty cards use the "chip"...my Naivas has chip.


I know that, I asked a specific question bank card or loyalty card .Just because a loyalty card has a chip does not automatically mean it has a pin enabled on it. Final authentication can be pin,signature or biometric.

For Naivas - The loyalty card uses a bank branded card ( issued by Naivas) ,not to be confused with a bank issued card which will always use either of the three methods above before a transaction is carried out.


Naivas card is Chase issued and no pin is required to authenticate purchase at the counter but an ID is required.

When used in an ATM then a PIN should be required, I will try today and see if a pin will be asked at an ATM.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

FRM2011
#438 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2016 11:23:36 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
FRM2011 wrote:
Folks I've noticed no one is talking about the lawyer who was abducted together with his client and driver.

Guess by now we are honest to admit that chances of the guys being found alive are quite slim indeed. Glad Lsk and Knhcr are piling pressure.

Am throwing an open question here especially to security experts. Is there wisdom in "cooperating" with armed thugs as we are usually advised by cops. These guys were taken in broad daylight !

A few months ago, two guys were abducted at kikopey at 11am in broad daylight in front of very many witnesses. Their bodies were found later that evening.

Four terrorists did the worst at Garissa university college. It's said they lured very many young girls out of their hiding places by lieing that they don't kill women and children. And so they moved from room to room. Can't imagine the terror as those kids waited for the inevitable. And can't help but wonder what if someone had fought back.

Love watching crime & investigations channel 170 and am convinced accepting to be abducted and hoping for the best from the thugs isn't a very smart strategy.

But am saying this from the comfort of my sitting room.

Maybe there is a wazua who can give a better perspective informed by expertise.


Update. Bodies found in Ndonyo sabuk river. Guess this is what living in a banana republic means.
streetwise
#439 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2016 11:36:16 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/23/2011
Posts: 1,740
Location: Nairobi
Very scary indeed , so the guy should have hired thugs to fix the policeman instead of following the law. That way he may have been alive today
Muheani
#440 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2016 12:52:45 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/20/2009
Posts: 1,402
FRM2011 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Folks I've noticed no one is talking about the lawyer who was abducted together with his client and driver.

Guess by now we are honest to admit that chances of the guys being found alive are quite slim indeed. Glad Lsk and Knhcr are piling pressure.

Am throwing an open question here especially to security experts. Is there wisdom in "cooperating" with armed thugs as we are usually advised by cops. These guys were taken in broad daylight !

A few months ago, two guys were abducted at kikopey at 11am in broad daylight in front of very many witnesses. Their bodies were found later that evening.

Four terrorists did the worst at Garissa university college. It's said they lured very many young girls out of their hiding places by lieing that they don't kill women and children. And so they moved from room to room. Can't imagine the terror as those kids waited for the inevitable. And can't help but wonder what if someone had fought back.

Love watching crime & investigations channel 170 and am convinced accepting to be abducted and hoping for the best from the thugs isn't a very smart strategy.

But am saying this from the comfort of my sitting room.

Maybe there is a wazua who can give a better perspective informed by expertise.


Update. Bodies found in Ndonyo sabuk river. Guess this is what living in a banana republic means.



This is really one very sad happenstance.
Gosh..shocking.
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