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Kenya nuclear power programme
Njung'e
#51 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:49:40 AM
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Where France is going after phasing out some nuclear plants. Awesome innovation. I really like.

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Kaigangio
#52 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 5:29:59 PM
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I have read through the posts and it is very interesting to reflect on their content.

I wish we had real engineers here in wazua who could argue this issue out using numbers and not theorists who cannot tell the difference between potential difference between two points of an active circuit, or active and reactive (quadrature) power at the generation location and the load side.

All that we are talking about are safety of reactors in the USA, European Union and other Asian countries which have been running for decades and putting ourselves in the daft domains like Kenya could never produce a single nuclear power generation engineers. What a shame!!

Masukuma has been right all along.





...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Taurrus
#53 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:45:49 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
I have read through the posts and it is very interesting to reflect on their content.

I wish we had real engineers here in wazua who could argue this issue out using numbers and not theorists who cannot tell the difference between potential difference between two points of an active circuit, or active and reactive (quadrature) power at the generation location and the load side.

All that we are talking about are safety of reactors in the USA, European Union and other Asian countries which have been running for decades and putting ourselves in the daft domains like Kenya could never produce a single nuclear power generation engineers. What a shame!!

Masukuma has been right all along.

Yeye ni team Bomas! wakati umefika!smile




enyands
#54 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:58:38 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
I have read through the posts and it is very interesting to reflect on their content.

I wish we had real engineers here in wazua who could argue this issue out using numbers and not theorists who cannot tell the difference between potential difference between two points of an active circuit, or active and reactive (quadrature) power at the generation location and the load side.

All that we are talking about are safety of reactors in the USA, European Union and other Asian countries which have been running for decades and putting ourselves in the daft domains like Kenya could never produce a single nuclear power generation engineers. What a shame!!

Masukuma has been right all along.








Happened to be read today's paper. @Masukuma and this is what I found .the problem isn't the benefits ,the problem is safety concerns.a country like kenya basic things are taken for granted.what you guys aren't telling me is why is Germany shutting down nuclear completely and California is too. Are these guys stupid to go green? Forget about circuits and engineers just answer me ,what is this that these first world's are seeing that we dont??




Kaigangio why are some of first world shutting down? What wrong thing have they noticed that shameful us aren't seeing? This is a question im asking you guys?
kiash
#55 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:47:19 PM
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The thing is Kenya should just stop dreaming about Nuclear for the next 30 yrs or more. Not because there isn money, technology or even expertise but on very simple issues like safety.

When there will have a performing county /gava rescue service , then we shall start thinking about how to setup a plant. Look at what happens in Huruma after a flat goes down, fires in the CBD , road accidents, you just have to start praying coz before the rescue gets there , d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! there is not even a functioning emergency number , there is a mobile number. How are people expected to remember these numbers?
We have private rescue like G4S zingine kama za Pipeline do not even have enough foam.
Lets stop dreaming. Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
enyands
#56 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:54:49 PM
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kiash wrote:
The thing is Kenya should just stop dreaming about Nuclear for the next 30 yrs or more. Not because there isn money, technology or even expertise but on very simple issues like safety.

When there will have a performing county /gava rescue service , then we shall start thinking about how to setup a plant. Look at what happens in Huruma after a flat goes down, fires in the CBD , road accidents, you just have to start praying coz before the rescue gets there , d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! there is not even a functioning emergency number , there is a mobile number. How are people expected to remember these numbers?
We have private rescue like G4S zingine kama za Pipeline do not even have enough foam.
Lets stop dreaming. Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Kiash I keep asking this folks one question,they keep saying we are fear mongers that's ok .BUT what they aren't answering is why is first world's running away from nuclear, the article above says California is shutting down its last nuclear plant ,why are we creating one ?? What is this sweet honey that we are seeing that mzungu havent?They aren't answering me that

Fact:since you want numbers ,after the disaster in Japan it's was ruled that housing sorrounding nuclear reactors should be 30km radius,example if a plant is set in Nairobi CBD then there should be no building till rongai and round till a circle is drawn. So where in kenya would you expect this without a fight from land owners ??kama SGR ilikuwa drama?

Fact ; you need waters to cool down the reactors. In some places like California they use ocean water,in Pullman they were using Columbia River ,where in kenya would you expect them to instal this reactors where there is abundant of water with no human life there ??

Fact ; hii ni ndoto.someome wants campaign money period.

Fact:forget the engineering bs, safety comes first then other bs follows. Our culture and behaviour cannot help in times of disaster management. The main reason why this reactors are being shut down is safety issues and storage of nuclear wastes .nothing else.so tuwache kudanganyana hapa ati we will go nuclear. Hakuna
masukuma
#57 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:06:14 AM
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mimi huwa siDebate na watu ambao wakiona wengine wanatembea mguu tupu - wanatoa viatu wanaanza kutembea mguu tupu! they assume that the reason wengine wanatembea mguu tupu is the same na yao kutovaa viatu. wakiulizwa wanasema... eish! wewe huoni? watu wanatembea mguu tupu! wewe unataka kuvaa viatu na wengine wanatoa kwa nini? wewe ni mwerevu kushinda wale ambao wanatembea mguu tupu? priss... ukitaka kuArgue na mimi toa facts sio kunionyesha watu ambao wanatembea mguu tupu halafu uniulize kama mimi ni mwerevu kuwashinda. Watu wengine wanatembea mguu tupu kwa sababu walikuwa wamevaa viatu zenye walinunua 1975! wewe hujanunua kiatu unaAmbiwa usinunue kiatu... kaa mguu tupu!
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enyands
#58 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:42:28 AM
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masukuma wrote:
mimi huwa siDebate na watu ambao wakiona wengine wanatembea mguu tupu - wanatoa viatu wanaanza kutembea mguu tupu! they assume that the reason wengine wanatembea mguu tupu is the same na yao kutovaa viatu. wakiulizwa wanasema... eish! wewe huoni? watu wanatembea mguu tupu! wewe unataka kuvaa viatu na wengine wanatoa kwa nini? wewe ni mwerevu kushinda wale ambao wanatembea mguu tupu? priss... ukitaka kuArgue na mimi toa facts sio kunionyesha watu ambao wanatembea mguu tupu halafu uniulize kama mimi ni mwerevu kuwashinda. Watu wengine wanatembea mguu tupu kwa sababu walikuwa wamevaa viatu zenye walinunua 1975! wewe hujanunua kiatu unaAmbiwa usinunue kiatu... kaa mguu tupu!


I get your point . Haya sawa wewe na wenzenu Mwende muvaae hizo viatu vya kisasa. Wacha Sisi tukae mguu tupu kwa vile Walio vaa viatu vya 1975 waliumia na wakaamua hawavai viatu vya kisasa ila wataenda kuvaa viatu vilivyo tengenezwa na majani. Ukitaka facts Nenda uangalie kwenye mtandao. Lakini kutakuwa na shida.tukutane wakati kutakuwa na nuclear hapa nyumbani.mimi nimeenda basi nawatakia la heri smile

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statistics showing decline in world nuclear plants
Othelo
#59 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:50:13 AM
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Government of Kenya which cannot even maintain hospital equipment at KNH and the likes want to do nuclear power plants. GL smile
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