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Kenya nuclear power programme
McReggae
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:32:00 AM
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Kenya set to harness nuclear power with the help of the French Govt so says the Premier!!!!

http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/uo3tkt/-/index.html


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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:54:00 PM
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So much talk. I'm yet to see him actually do something

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#3 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:08:56 AM
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are we ready yet?


Given our laid back culture. Are we going to handle this plant or it's a chernobyl in waiting?
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#4 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:15:34 PM
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harrydre wrote:
are we ready yet?


Given our laid back culture. Are we going to handle this plant or it's a chernobyl in waiting?

Congo has been running a couple like forever
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#5 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:56:16 PM
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masukuma wrote:
harrydre wrote:
are we ready yet?


Given our laid back culture. Are we going to handle this plant or it's a chernobyl in waiting?

Congo has been running a couple like forever


Sure? Maybe a new one which I might not have heard of, otherwise there was Trico 1 with capacity of 50kw (yes,50kw) and Trico 2 which had a capacity of 1mw (again,yes.1mw).Trico 1 was shut down in 1970 and Trico 2 has not run since 2004. I stand to be collected.
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chemirocha
#6 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:36:27 PM
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harrydre wrote:


Given our laid back culture. Are we going to handle this plant or it's a chernobyl in waiting?


That's an absurd statement if ever there was one. Geothermal and hydropower have their own significant risks and yet we seem to have managed quite fine.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:45:36 PM
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Can someone go on the blue threads and see contribution there. Most people who want it are people who are excited and haven't done well research on nuclear. But people who are anti nuclear are people who have had the chance to travel outside kenya and have seen the effects of nuclear.

Gentleman this is fire you are joking with. Wish you well with this ambition yet you are ignoring abundant green energy in which you are custodian of .
masukuma
#8 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:01:00 PM
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enyands wrote:
Can someone go on the blue threads and see contribution there. Most people who want it are people who are excited and haven't done well research on nuclear. But people who are anti nuclear are people who have had the chance to travel outside kenya and have seen the effects of nuclear.

Gentleman this is fire you are joking with. Wish you well with this ambition yet you are ignoring abundant green energy in which you are custodian of .

nuclear power is like aircrafts - it's the safest widely used energy source but just has a bad name coz when it goes wrong it kills many. but coal kills more!
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Fewer than 50 people were reported to have died at Chernobyl; by contrast, the American Lung Association estimates that smoke from coal-fired power plants kills about 13,000 people every year,
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enyands
#9 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:23:59 PM
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masukuma wrote:
enyands wrote:
Can someone go on the blue threads and see contribution there. Most people who want it are people who are excited and haven't done well research on nuclear. But people who are anti nuclear are people who have had the chance to travel outside kenya and have seen the effects of nuclear.

Gentleman this is fire you are joking with. Wish you well with this ambition yet you are ignoring abundant green energy in which you are custodian of .

nuclear power is like aircrafts - it's the safest widely used energy source but just has a bad name coz when it goes wrong it kills many. but coal kills more!
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Fewer than 50 people were reported to have died at Chernobyl; by contrast, the American Lung Association estimates that smoke from coal-fired power plants kills about 13,000 people every year,



Masukuma it's somehow safe for first world .though if you read this Web link here you will understand a state in usa is in trouble because of nuclear waste that they don't know what to do with it

leakage nuclear in usa

Having said that there was a tetenus vaccine going on and it was realised that it was contaminated with hcg hormones or something which is used to birth control.try to imagine your daughter having that vaccine AND HAVING GOVT OFFICIALS COVERING UP the test results!! So drives my question ,,what about nuclear wastes?? Do you think should catastrophe happen the kenyan govt will take measures and responsibilities to stop it from happening again or taking stringent measures ??


You can equate the effects to coal . Something funny is that Kenya is persuing both coal and nuclear. So that will be double death.why can't we exhaust all the green energy then we run to this exorbitant sources of energy?

Masukuma you need to travel man and do your research about nuclear energy in third world countries man.

Now that you mentioned Chernobyl I came across this article. "


The Chernobyl Nuclear disaster is widely considered to have been the worst power plant accident in history, and is one of only two classified as a level 7 event on the International Nuclear Event Scale (the other being the Fukushima, Daiichi disaster in 2011). The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles. The official Soviet casualty count of 31 deaths has been disputed and long-term effects such as cancers and deformities are still being accounted for."


Cancer is the word and statement "are still being accounted for"
That's a red flag right there. BTW Effects of chenorbyl will be felt for 20,000 yrs after the disaster happened .just fyi.what about a third world country where transparency is an isssue?? That's my worry and any kenyan with a common sense should worry about .but if you don't have common sense and have rare senses then celebrate .nimewachia hapo.
masukuma
#10 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:44:35 PM
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enyands wrote:
masukuma wrote:
enyands wrote:
Can someone go on the blue threads and see contribution there. Most people who want it are people who are excited and haven't done well research on nuclear. But people who are anti nuclear are people who have had the chance to travel outside kenya and have seen the effects of nuclear.

Gentleman this is fire you are joking with. Wish you well with this ambition yet you are ignoring abundant green energy in which you are custodian of .

nuclear power is like aircrafts - it's the safest widely used energy source but just has a bad name coz when it goes wrong it kills many. but coal kills more!
Quote:
Fewer than 50 people were reported to have died at Chernobyl; by contrast, the American Lung Association estimates that smoke from coal-fired power plants kills about 13,000 people every year,



Masukuma it's somehow safe for first world .though if you read this Web link here you will understand a state in usa is in trouble because of nuclear waste that they don't know what to do with it

leakage nuclear in usa

Having said that there was a tetenus vaccine going on and it was realised that it was contaminated with hcg hormones or something which is used to birth control.try to imagine your daughter having that vaccine AND HAVING GOVT OFFICIALS COVERING UP the test results!! So drives my question ,,what about nuclear wastes?? Do you think should catastrophe happen the kenyan govt will take measures and responsibilities to stop it from happening again or taking stringent measures ??


You can equate the effects to coal . Something funny is that Kenya is persuing both coal and nuclear. So that will be double death.why can't we exhaust all the green energy then we run to this exorbitant sources of energy?

Masukuma you need to travel man and do your research about nuclear energy in third world countries man.

Now that you mentioned Chernobyl I came across this article. "


The Chernobyl Nuclear disaster is widely considered to have been the worst power plant accident in history, and is one of only two classified as a level 7 event on the International Nuclear Event Scale (the other being the Fukushima, Daiichi disaster in 2011). The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles. The official Soviet casualty count of 31 deaths has been disputed and long-term effects such as cancers and deformities are still being accounted for."


Cancer is the word and statement "are still being accounted for"
That's a red flag right there. BTW Effects of chenorbyl will be felt for 20,000 yrs after the disaster happened .just fyi.what about a third world country where transparency is an isssue?? That's my worry and any kenyan with a common sense should worry about .but if you don't have common sense and have rare senses then celebrate .nimewachia hapo.

death from Coal stats dwarf everything you say! As I said... nuclear power is like airtravel - the safest on the planet. it's tragic when it happens but the problem at 3 miles, fukushima and Chernobyl will not be repeated.... if nukes have issues again it will be a fresh issue unlike people dying from the same old problem with coal!

Nuclear is like death by lions or terrorism.... everyone gets to hear the story but in reality mosquitoes will kill tonnes more! Did you know that, if you take every single person killed in a terrorist attack around the world in the last 20 years, and you add all the lives lost in the Middle East since 1967, and you add to that every American life lost in Vietnam, Korea, and every single American engagement since then, Iraq, Afghanistan. If you take all those lives, and you multiply it by 2, that's the number of children who die from malaria in a year. 91% of those deaths are in Africa? stats don't lie... narratives do!
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enyands
#11 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:01:06 PM
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masukuma wrote:
enyands wrote:
masukuma wrote:
enyands wrote:
Can someone go on the blue threads and see contribution there. Most people who want it are people who are excited and haven't done well research on nuclear. But people who are anti nuclear are people who have had the chance to travel outside kenya and have seen the effects of nuclear.

Gentleman this is fire you are joking with. Wish you well with this ambition yet you are ignoring abundant green energy in which you are custodian of .

nuclear power is like aircrafts - it's the safest widely used energy source but just has a bad name coz when it goes wrong it kills many. but coal kills more!
Quote:
Fewer than 50 people were reported to have died at Chernobyl; by contrast, the American Lung Association estimates that smoke from coal-fired power plants kills about 13,000 people every year,



Masukuma it's somehow safe for first world .though if you read this Web link here you will understand a state in usa is in trouble because of nuclear waste that they don't know what to do with it

leakage nuclear in usa

Having said that there was a tetenus vaccine going on and it was realised that it was contaminated with hcg hormones or something which is used to birth control.try to imagine your daughter having that vaccine AND HAVING GOVT OFFICIALS COVERING UP the test results!! So drives my question ,,what about nuclear wastes?? Do you think should catastrophe happen the kenyan govt will take measures and responsibilities to stop it from happening again or taking stringent measures ??


You can equate the effects to coal . Something funny is that Kenya is persuing both coal and nuclear. So that will be double death.why can't we exhaust all the green energy then we run to this exorbitant sources of energy?

Masukuma you need to travel man and do your research about nuclear energy in third world countries man.

Now that you mentioned Chernobyl I came across this article. "


The Chernobyl Nuclear disaster is widely considered to have been the worst power plant accident in history, and is one of only two classified as a level 7 event on the International Nuclear Event Scale (the other being the Fukushima, Daiichi disaster in 2011). The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles. The official Soviet casualty count of 31 deaths has been disputed and long-term effects such as cancers and deformities are still being accounted for."


Cancer is the word and statement "are still being accounted for"
That's a red flag right there. BTW Effects of chenorbyl will be felt for 20,000 yrs after the disaster happened .just fyi.what about a third world country where transparency is an isssue?? That's my worry and any kenyan with a common sense should worry about .but if you don't have common sense and have rare senses then celebrate .nimewachia hapo.

death from Coal stats dwarf everything you say! As I said... nuclear power is like airtravel - the safest on the planet. it's tragic when it happens but the problem at 3 miles, fukushima and Chernobyl will not be repeated.... if nukes have issues again it will be a fresh issue unlike people dying from the same old problem with coal!

Nuclear is like death by lions or terrorism.... everyone gets to hear the story but in reality mosquitoes will kill tonnes more! Did you know that, if you take every single person killed in a terrorist attack around the world in the last 20 years, and you add all the lives lost in the Middle East since 1967, and you add to that every American life lost in Vietnam, Korea, and every single American engagement since then, Iraq, Afghanistan. If you take all those lives, and you multiply it by 2, that's the number of children who die from malaria in a year. 91% of those deaths are in Africa? stats don't lie... narratives do!



Did you read the link about leakage in Washington state? Do you want to tel me kenya will handle the crisis better than usa????
We have been unable to contain terrorists from Somalia do you think we will contain nuclear leaks? How easy will the al Shabaab penetration our security to launch at grenade propelled attack on that nuclear plant in kenya ? Answer that first before your greed for nuclear energy
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#12 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:34:18 PM
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This is an outright stupid idea. Countries such as Germany,France,Austria,Australia,Spain are coming out of (phasing-out) nuclear and here we are thinking that we are very intelligent. Invest in renewable energy and we will have abundant clean power at a fraction of the cost. Let's talk nuclear energy when and if the sun decides to never rise again.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:36:20 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
This is an outright stupid idea. Countries such as Germany,France,Austria,Australia,Spain are coming out of (phasing-out) nuclear and here we are thinking that we are very intelligent. Invest in renewable energy and we will have abundant clean power at a fraction of the cost. Let's talk nuclear energy when and if the sun decides to never rise again.




Njunge iv spent my time and resources to drive point to masukuma but it's not helping .I give up . The day the going to build those reactors is when I'll know the country has gone to the dogs
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#14 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:09:11 PM
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Njunge iv spent my time and resources to drive point to masukuma but it's not helping .I give up . The day the going to build those reactors is when I'll know the country has gone to the dogs

I have read all those things you have pointed to... for years I have done my research... the very thing you are considering safe will kill you.... just silently! Stats don't lie... Al Shabab will kill less people than than people who drown in kenya... only that al shabab's killings are dramatized! same with nuclear power - everyone who reads stats knows it's way safer than many things however due to dramatisation around it people fear it and don't fear mosquitoes or coal. if it's death you are fearing - fix the stuff that is known to kill others. Plus just because someone else is doing something does not mean that you should do it! I remember Koreans banning flights because of "ebola" ... and some people here were saying KAMA KOREAN WHO BUILD SAMSUNG GALAXY ARE FEARING IT - NI SISI? just because someone did one thing does not mean you should do it just because they did the said thing. Show me numbers and I will follow you... not narratives!
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#15 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:31:06 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
This is an outright stupid idea. Countries such as Germany,France,Austria,Australia,Spain are coming out of (phasing-out) nuclear and here we are thinking that we are very intelligent. Invest in renewable energy and we will have abundant clean power at a fraction of the cost. Let's talk nuclear energy when and if the sun decides to never rise again.


If we are to argue based on facts, then competent studies show that the cost per Megawatt for nuclear power generation is infinitely cheaper than solar or wind power generation.

The truth is one nuclear power plant could generate more "clean" electricity than all of Kenya's existing power generating facilities.

As far as safety is concerned, in 60 years there have been only three significant disasters in civilian nuclear power plants. And of those three; Chernobyl was a failed safety test, Three Mile Island was caused by human error and Fukushima was caused by an earthquake. By those standards, dam failures, coal and oil fires have caused bigger loss of life and more significant environmental destruction.

We need to stop being emotional and discuss these issues based on the cold hard facts.
enyands
#16 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:29:54 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
This is an outright stupid idea. Countries such as Germany,France,Austria,Australia,Spain are coming out of (phasing-out) nuclear and here we are thinking that we are very intelligent. Invest in renewable energy and we will have abundant clean power at a fraction of the cost. Let's talk nuclear energy when and if the sun decides to never rise again.


If we are to argue based on facts, then competent studies show that the cost per Megawatt for nuclear power generation is infinitely cheaper than solar or wind power generation.

The truth is one nuclear power plant could generate more "clean" electricity than all of Kenya's existing power generating facilities.

As far as safety is concerned, in 60 years there have been only three significant disasters in civilian nuclear power plants. And of those three; Chernobyl was a failed safety test, Three Mile Island was caused by human error and Fukushima was caused by an earthquake. By those standards, dam failures, coal and oil fires have caused bigger loss of life and more significant environmental destruction.

We need to stop being emotional and discuss these issues based on the cold hard facts.



Chemirocha with all due respect I clearly understand where you are coming from but I have 4 questions for you :


1 If there happens a leakage like the one that happened in pollman Washington state how would kenya government handle it mr.chemirocha? With all these boreholes people are digging left right and centre???

leakage in usa

2 Countries that are managing well the nuclear powers are first world? Kenya do we have technology ? Do we even have courses in colleges about nuclear ? Don't talk about Iran and north Korea ,there is politics and hidden agenda on those nuclear ambitions

3 do we have disaster management plan should there be a crisis of nuclear like japan ?do we?Lorry ya mafuta inaanguka and instead of poeple evacuating, they run to steal fuel.They get burnt to ashes. Another tanker falls a week later same crap same death. An unfortunate accident happened in Thika road sometime back .A woman had a leg that was cut and she was bleeding . People rushed to see and the went away screaming "huyo amekufa hayuko?" And she was still alive , guess what because of lack of ambulances and mere FIRST AID TRAINING she passed on 2 hrs later.Now back to my point ,with this kind of mentality and culture do you think we can manage crisis?

4 have we exhausted all the available green energies sources ???

5 kwani usa na Russia ni wajinga when they try to discourage people from doing nuclear?why are they even moving away from nuclear and going green ?

As you advised I have put my emotional feelings aside.answer categorically all these 5 questions with facts and I'll respect your contribution.meanwhile answer them one by one as I have stated ....I'm waiting...
enyands
#17 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:24:50 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
This is an outright stupid idea. Countries such as Germany,France,Austria,Australia,Spain are coming out of (phasing-out) nuclear and here we are thinking that we are very intelligent. Invest in renewable energy and we will have abundant clean power at a fraction of the cost. Let's talk nuclear energy when and if the sun decides to never rise again.


If we are to argue based on facts, then competent studies show that the cost per Megawatt for nuclear power generation is infinitely cheaper than solar or wind power generation.

The truth is one nuclear power plant could generate more "clean" electricity than all of Kenya's existing power generating facilities.then why are the west leaving nuclear and going green? Why is Obama giving incentives for whoever is going green?

As far as safety is concerned, in 60 years there have been only three significant disasters in civilian nuclear power plants. And of those three; Chernobyl was a failed safety test, Three Mile Island was caused by human error and Fukushima was caused by an earthquake. By those standards, dam failures, coal and oil fires have caused bigger loss of life and more significant environmental destruction. DO we have to judge the future by what happened in the past ? Because it happened 3 times last sixty years the chances of it happening to us is zero?that's what japan thought and you saw what happened during earthquake.should the same earthquake happen in kenya ??

We need to stop being emotional and discuss these issues based on the cold hard facts.
About being emotional I'm laughing because Im working with some of these environmental regulatory agencies and I have more classified info that I can't share.so if you base my arguments on emotions then it's ok because I know die hard cold facts. I only talk of what's in the media,others i cant

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#18 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:03:35 PM
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Chemirocha with all due respect I clearly understand where you are coming from but I have 4 questions for you :


1 If there happens a leakage like the one that happened in pollman Washington state how would kenya government handle it mr.chemirocha? With all these boreholes people are digging left right and centre???

2 Countries that are managing well the nuclear powers are first world? Kenya do we have technology ? Do we even have courses in colleges about nuclear ?

3 do we have disaster management should there be a crisis of nuclear like japan ?do we?. An unfortunate accident happened in Thika road sometime .a woman had a leg that was cut and she was bleeding . People rushed to see and the went away screaming "huyo amekufa hayuko?" And she was still alive , guess what because of lack of ambulances and mere FIRST AID TRAINING she passed on.Now back to my point ,with this kind of mentality do we have disaster management structures

4 have we exhausted all the available green energies ???

5 kwani usa na Russia ni wajinga when they try to discourage people from doing nuclear?why are they even moving away from nuclear and going green ?

As you advised I have put my emotional feelings aside.answer categorically all these 5 questions with facts and I'll respect your contribution.meanwhile answer them one by one as I have stated ....I'm waiting


Very reasonable questions, I will try my best to answer you.

1. The facility at Pullman Washington State University is a research institution and not explicitly the field of power generation. The way I understand it, the incident involved a leak in the university sewer system and was picked before any damage to human life or the environment. A high standard of safety should be a must if we are to even consider the nuclear route.

2. Developing countries such as South Africa, Pakistan, India, Egypt and former Soviet Union/ Warsaw Pact states such as Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia have run nuclear power plants.

Since 2012, Kenya has been partnering with the International Atomic Energy Agency to train engineers and build capacity. Locally UoN does offer courses in nuclear science at the Masters level. The expertise is definitely there.

3. The biggest disaster from a power generation project was a dam failure in China. Over 100,000 perished and 11 million were displaced. At present there are also fears over the Kariba Dam in Zambia/ Zimbabwe and Mosul Dam in Iraq.

Secondly geothermal power projects have resulted in earthquakes in Switzerland and the United States.

Seven Forks and Olkaria have been running for many years without the fear of catastrophic failure. The point is Kenya has a reasonable level of competency when it comes to managing such complex and high risk projects. Nuclear should not be treated any different.

4. Kenya is presently at its peak capacity with hydroelectric power generation and geothermal capacity is not as promising as the state's ambition of achieving 5000 MW production.

Wind and solar may sound good but they are both expensive and impractical. Remember solar power is unavailable at peak consumer demand which is in the evening and night time.

Another example, the planned Kajiado wind farm is expected to bring a peak 100 MW from a construction cost of 22 billion shillings. Compare with Olkaria III which is expected to produce 110 MW from a construction cost of 3 billion. You be the judge on which is more cost effective.

5. Admittedly the European Union and Japan and strongly against nuclear power generation. The big powers Germany, UK and France intend to completely phase out nuclear power out of safety concerns.

On the other hand, the United States has commissioned nine new nuclear plants in the last ten years alone. Russia and China are also investing billions of dollars to build new nuclear power plants and upgrade existing facilities.
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I have more classified info that I can't share.



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enyands wrote:

I have more classified info that I can't share.



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