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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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Am wrote:washiku wrote:Nope. They just need to account for their wealth logically. That is why you can see they are looking at both the assets and liabilities. Eg...if you own pieces of land and you took a loan at a sacco or its an inheritance from your dad, why would anyone want to ask you about it? In fact, the ones they are paying attention to are those whose sources dont really make sense or those that people out there have claimed they own yet they have not declared them. You remember like for King'ori Mwangi there was someone who had said he owns matatus, hotels and a rental apartment at Roysambu yet he had not declared them. Followed the Vetting and sometimes found the Questions and answers very Funny.. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Is it true that you have an estate within Zimmerman. Answer: I am not aware. and if I have sir, the tenants can stop paying rent. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Do you own BELLA VISTA Restaurant? Answer: There are many people called Kingori. Its not Mine sir, and if it is, you can go have lunch for free.  Question: Mr Gideon Kimilu, Do you have a house in your Makueni Land. Answer: Of course I do not live under a tree sir... Who really is the other's boss here?? ill go watch that
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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mawinder wrote:Tebes wrote:mwenza wrote:Am wrote:washiku wrote:Nope. They just need to account for their wealth logically. That is why you can see they are looking at both the assets and liabilities. Eg...if you own pieces of land and you took a loan at a sacco or its an inheritance from your dad, why would anyone want to ask you about it? In fact, the ones they are paying attention to are those whose sources dont really make sense or those that people out there have claimed they own yet they have not declared them. You remember like for King'ori Mwangi there was someone who had said he owns matatus, hotels and a rental apartment at Roysambu yet he had not declared them. Followed the Vetting and sometimes found the Questions and answers very Funny.. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Is it true that you have an estate within Zimmerman. Answer: I am not aware. and if I have sir, the tenants can stop paying rent. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Do you own BELLA VISTA Restaurant? Answer: There are many people called Kingori. Its not Mine sir, and if it is, you can go have lunch for free. Question: Mr Gideon Kimilu, Do you have a house in your Makueni Land. Answer: Of course I do not live under a tree sir... Who really is the other's boss here?? ....and was it a coincidence that most of them had more than one date of birth? That was very arrogant for King'ori. I think some of them are damn rich that a threat of a mare retirement is inconsequential. They already know(at least some) that they are headed home and hence Kavulundi can go take free lunch if he is man enough. If today they are retired most of them will be given meager pension compared to their net worth. In any case do you expect any of them to be taken to court to account for their wealth? None! It is whispered in certain circles Kingori is a Mason.I would be surprised if he fails the vetting.He takes care of many interests!!!!! The son is a good friend... Enterprising, iko pesa mingi sana.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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If only all the policemen were motivated by the love for Kenya like this OCPD copQuote:I am a patriotic Kenyan and I have several investments,” Nyandarua North OCPD Benjamin Onsongo told the Johnston Kavuludi-led vetting panel that he had made Sh21 million gross income from his businesses Quote:Another panellist, Mr Ronald Musengi, asked him why he preferred to remain in the police service yet he could live comfortably from his “businesses” without his salary as a senior police officer.
“I am a patriotic Kenyan and I love my job,” Mr Onsongo told the panel. “After all, I would not be where I am today if it wasn’t for the police service that pays me the salary I have invested in businesses Kiganjo school of BusinessJoachim Quote:His payslip indicated that he earned Sh26,000 as salary in 2011 yet the commission led by Mr Kavuludi stated that he transacted up to Sh440,000 in a day through his M-Pesa account Laibuta Quote:He was at pains to explain the source of his income other than his salary. He could not explain clearly the source of a Sh3 million annual income listed as coming from miscellaneous and rental payments Aye you guys from blue section,leave wazua and go to kiganjo for business and investment lessons If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Swenani wrote:If only all the policemen were motivated by the love for Kenya like this OCPD copQuote:I am a patriotic Kenyan and I have several investments,” Nyandarua North OCPD Benjamin Onsongo told the Johnston Kavuludi-led vetting panel that he had made Sh21 million gross income from his businesses Quote:Another panellist, Mr Ronald Musengi, asked him why he preferred to remain in the police service yet he could live comfortably from his “businesses” without his salary as a senior police officer.
“I am a patriotic Kenyan and I love my job,” Mr Onsongo told the panel. “After all, I would not be where I am today if it wasn’t for the police service that pays me the salary I have invested in businesses Kiganjo school of BusinessJoachim Quote:His payslip indicated that he earned Sh26,000 as salary in 2011 yet the commission led by Mr Kavuludi stated that he transacted up to Sh440,000 in a day through his M-Pesa account Laibuta Quote:He was at pains to explain the source of his income other than his salary. He could not explain clearly the source of a Sh3 million annual income listed as coming from miscellaneous and rental payments Aye you guys from blue section,leave wazua and go to kiganjo for business and investment lessons Seems I took the wrong turn in life after seco!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:madollar wrote:Coolio wrote:Kwani police are supposed to be poor???? No but also how can you explain a cop whose salary is 60k but he is worth 100 million Who lied to you that people get rich from a salary? people get rich from DEALS! lol.... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:madollar wrote:Coolio wrote:Kwani police are supposed to be poor???? No but also how can you explain a cop whose salary is 60k but he is worth 100 million Who lied to you that people get rich from a salary? people get rich from DEALS! lol.... You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Swenani wrote:If only all the policemen were motivated by the love for Kenya like this OCPD copQuote:I am a patriotic Kenyan and I have several investments,” Nyandarua North OCPD Benjamin Onsongo told the Johnston Kavuludi-led vetting panel that he had made Sh21 million gross income from his businesses Quote:Another panellist, Mr Ronald Musengi, asked him why he preferred to remain in the police service yet he could live comfortably from his “businesses” without his salary as a senior police officer.
“I am a patriotic Kenyan and I love my job,” Mr Onsongo told the panel. “After all, I would not be where I am today if it wasn’t for the police service that pays me the salary I have invested in businesses Kiganjo school of BusinessJoachim Quote:His payslip indicated that he earned Sh26,000 as salary in 2011 yet the commission led by Mr Kavuludi stated that he transacted up to Sh440,000 in a day through his M-Pesa account Laibuta Quote:He was at pains to explain the source of his income other than his salary. He could not explain clearly the source of a Sh3 million annual income listed as coming from miscellaneous and rental payments Aye you guys from blue section,leave wazua and go to kiganjo for business and investment lessons Quote:His payslip indicated that he earned Sh26,000 as salary in 2011 yet the commission led by Mr Kavuludi stated that he transacted up to Sh440,000 in a day through his M-Pesa account How can one transact that amount via Mpesa in a day? Ama ni several phone numbers?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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madollar wrote:Coolio wrote:Kwani police are supposed to be poor???? No but also how can you explain a cop whose salary is 60k but he is worth 100 million and he got a D -  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Tebes wrote:mwenza wrote:Am wrote:washiku wrote:Nope. They just need to account for their wealth logically. That is why you can see they are looking at both the assets and liabilities. Eg...if you own pieces of land and you took a loan at a sacco or its an inheritance from your dad, why would anyone want to ask you about it? In fact, the ones they are paying attention to are those whose sources dont really make sense or those that people out there have claimed they own yet they have not declared them. You remember like for King'ori Mwangi there was someone who had said he owns matatus, hotels and a rental apartment at Roysambu yet he had not declared them. Followed the Vetting and sometimes found the Questions and answers very Funny.. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Is it true that you have an estate within Zimmerman. Answer: I am not aware. and if I have sir, the tenants can stop paying rent. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Do you own BELLA VISTA Restaurant? Answer: There are many people called Kingori. Its not Mine sir, and if it is, you can go have lunch for free. Question: Mr Gideon Kimilu, Do you have a house in your Makueni Land. Answer: Of course I do not live under a tree sir... Who really is the other's boss here?? ....and was it a coincidence that most of them had more than one date of birth? That was very arrogant for King'ori. I think some of them are damn rich that a threat of a mare retirement is inconsequential. They already know(at least some) that they are headed home and hence Kavulundi can go take free lunch if he is man enough. If today they are retired most of them will be given meager pension compared to their net worth. In any case do you expect any of them to be taken to court to account for their wealth? None! I keep asking myself why a wealthy man would keep fighting and embarrassing themselves in public over these positions. can't they just continue with the biasharas? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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harrydre wrote:madollar wrote:Coolio wrote:Kwani police are supposed to be poor???? No but also how can you explain a cop whose salary is 60k but he is worth 100 million and he got a D - Wachana na Simon....May he RIP If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:murchr wrote:madollar wrote:Coolio wrote:Kwani police are supposed to be poor???? No but also how can you explain a cop whose salary is 60k but he is worth 100 million Who lied to you that people get rich from a salary? True but atleast you should be able to account as to how you made the 100 million it just dint magically appear... 100M is pesa kidogo sana for a smart 45-55 year old. tuambie age and how much you are worth
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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harrydre wrote:Tebes wrote:mwenza wrote:Am wrote:washiku wrote:Nope. They just need to account for their wealth logically. That is why you can see they are looking at both the assets and liabilities. Eg...if you own pieces of land and you took a loan at a sacco or its an inheritance from your dad, why would anyone want to ask you about it? In fact, the ones they are paying attention to are those whose sources dont really make sense or those that people out there have claimed they own yet they have not declared them. You remember like for King'ori Mwangi there was someone who had said he owns matatus, hotels and a rental apartment at Roysambu yet he had not declared them. Followed the Vetting and sometimes found the Questions and answers very Funny.. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Is it true that you have an estate within Zimmerman. Answer: I am not aware. and if I have sir, the tenants can stop paying rent. Question: Mr Mwangi Kingori, Do you own BELLA VISTA Restaurant? Answer: There are many people called Kingori. Its not Mine sir, and if it is, you can go have lunch for free. Question: Mr Gideon Kimilu, Do you have a house in your Makueni Land. Answer: Of course I do not live under a tree sir... Who really is the other's boss here?? ....and was it a coincidence that most of them had more than one date of birth? That was very arrogant for King'ori. I think some of them are damn rich that a threat of a mare retirement is inconsequential. They already know(at least some) that they are headed home and hence Kavulundi can go take free lunch if he is man enough. If today they are retired most of them will be given meager pension compared to their net worth. In any case do you expect any of them to be taken to court to account for their wealth? None! I keep asking myself why a wealthy man would keep fighting and embarrassing themselves in public over these positions. can't they just continue with the biasharas? Security Needs.....Protecting your good or ill gotten assets. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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You can’t fire me, Kaindi tells Boinnet As Okonya want to vet his vettors "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Quote:Sixty three senior police officers have been dismissed from service after vetting unearthed massive corruption, mostly in the traffic department.
The fate of 29 others hangs in the balance because they will be investigated further by the National Police Service Commission which carried out the vetting.
“Through scrutiny of M-Pesa statements, the commission was able to establish that junior officers working in the traffic department regularly transferred fixed amounts of money to some of their seniors, suggesting that they had been given targets,” NPSC chairman Johnston Kavuludi told journalists. http://nairobinews.natio...cked-over-m-pesa-bribes/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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He has not withdrawn a cent from his account since 1999. Joshua Aseto said he has lived on a "measured plate" since becoming sick "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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50mirrionQuote:A chief inspector in particular, who said he is worth Sh50 million, was hard put to explain how he acquired his wealth and huge M-Pesa transactions in his account.
Chief Inspector Abubakar Bakari’s M-Pesa transactions showed that he was sending huge amounts of money to his seniors in Western Kenya.
Mr Bakari, now the Bamburi Police Base Commander, could not convince the panel led by commission chairperson Johnstone Kavuludi that the money he was sending to his bosses was from a merry-go-round. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Swenani wrote:50mirrionQuote:A chief inspector in particular, who said he is worth Sh50 million, was hard put to explain how he acquired his wealth and huge M-Pesa transactions in his account.
Chief Inspector Abubakar Bakari’s M-Pesa transactions showed that he was sending huge amounts of money to his seniors in Western Kenya.
Mr Bakari, now the Bamburi Police Base Commander, could not convince the panel led by commission chairperson Johnstone Kavuludi that the money he was sending to his bosses was from a merry-go-round. This is now malice. Kwani there is no policeman who can work hard and be rich like the rest of Kenyans. Must all rich policemen be a thieving lot. Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Othelo wrote:
This is now malice. Kwani there is no policeman who can work hard and be rich like the rest of Kenyans. Must all rich policemen be a thieving lot.
The elephant in the room is the source of these millions.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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