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enyands
#61 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 7:23:35 AM
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iris wrote:
Swenani wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
iris wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
enyands wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:



More and more rabbits to chase without any rabbit stew on table . Keep chasing

so sidian is this strong? ?single client 10b

Not a single client but many clients. If the max loan is 1.5mn then they can lend to 700 clients. Uber isn't the client, the drivers/owners are.

Plus monthly repayments reduce the actual amount loaned out on a monthly basis.


10.5% where is Centum getting cheap funds from?

These rates are not APY/APR but 'flat-rate' loans whose real cost to the borrower is higher.

I used to think SACCO loans were cheaper until I found out they were at 12% 'flat rate' which meant the real rate was hovering at 20+% or so. Not much cheaper than a bank loan.

@vvs, which SACCOs are those? the ones I belong to charge 12% reducing balance for normal loans of 48 months

I need to find SACCOs that will do that for me!


The issue of saccos was discussed here on wazua and it was concluded with statistics that it was cheaper taking a personal unsecured loan at 20%+ interest than taking a sacco loan at 12%.


@vvs, @swenani, it is possible I do not understand what reducing balance is but I thought I did. Have a look at this images from my sacco calculator and tell if it is reducing balance or not:



and this schedule:



rea vipingo
Realtreaty
#62 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:17:09 PM
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June the cold month of surprises by Centum. What is in store? Will it open a trend to offer bonus for those on books for two weeks time period. It would announce by 20th and close books by July 15 so that new shares will be trading after July 16.
Or No surprises!!!!
mkate_nusu
#63 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:52:43 PM
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No Surprises

Realtreaty wrote:
June the cold month of surprises by Centum. What is in store? Will it open a trend to offer bonus for those on books for two weeks time period. It would announce by 20th and close books by July 15 so that new shares will be trading after July 16.
Or No surprises!!!!


jgithige #69 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 11:42:58 AM wrote:


Last year August 2015, i attended the AGM at two rivers. The management was bieng pushed by shareholders to consider a bonus issue in the same respect they had considered the employees with the 1Bn bonus. When the CEO Mworia rose to answer the questions he said that they are avoiding the bonus with the then prevailing prices where centum was trading then at Ksh.52 to him he felt as a gross undervaluation and a bonus issue would be disastrous to the stability of the share price, infact he went ahead advising shareholders to take advantage of the low price to increase their centum shares saying the price was a deal. I wonder what he would tell the shareholders today with the Ksh40 knocking on the door.


KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
Realtreaty
#64 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 2:22:33 AM
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How far is the Two Rivers to date? I thought the Carrefour Mall that opened in Nairobi was at Two rivers, but I have come to realize we re talking about another mall in Karen. Now its so far so good for AL Futtaim having brought more commerce and employment to Kenya- They Got CMC, hands in Toyota Kenya, Karen Mall and now the Two rivers mall. Soon they will capture the CBD and operate the mall after completion of Hazina trade center currently under Nakumatt.
Realtreaty
#65 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2016 8:16:19 PM
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Readying myself for the bonus 1:5 this year. News by 20th June
Spikes
#66 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2016 8:31:38 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Readying myself for the bonus 1:5 this year. News by 20th June


How is that one possible in an environment dominated by greedy management?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Realtreaty
#67 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2016 9:20:20 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Readying myself for the bonus 1:5 this year. News by 20th June


How is that one possible in an environment dominated by greedy management?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
You call business people greedy? What should they be? They are in business to make money!smile smile
Ericsson
#68 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2016 11:22:24 PM
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Full year results announcement will either be on Wednesday or Thursday
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
The Great
#69 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38:59 AM
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Exposing themselves to budget aftereffects or hiding in their shadows?
"Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."
hisah
#70 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 12:17:19 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Full year results announcement will either be on Wednesday or Thursday

The market has been moving consistently against the FY news build up despite all the flashy project news bites here and there... Think

Current price level was last tested in Oct and Nov 2015 and July 2014 (where the parabolic rally to 80.00 handle was launched). In short the entire parabolic rally has been retraced! Crazy volatility. Why is mr market throwing a tantrum? Now we face a major support level breakdown below the 40.00 handle, which targets 35 then 25.

Still a golden handcuff Shhh

When you survive long enough in this casino called the market, you start to notice mr market's signal fingerprints - bull setups and bear setups. The market will always trap or fool or wrong-foot as many participants as possible so that the pros (big boys) can get their cut.

The golden rule still remains buy low (doom and gloom ulcers central) after properly evaluating a stock and sell high and higher as the euphoria crowd starts shouting how they've made easy money in the market. The path to riches is narrow and can never be wide, otherwise the pyramid structure will collapse!

*** Buy equities (especially US) if they tank coz of a surprise Fed rate hike. Participants are bearish, which is a nice setup for a crazy rally as short sellers get squeezed out of town. In 2007 we had euphoria in global stocks. This time we have fear in equities while euphoria in bonds. The bonds reset will send equities rallying like crazy globally. This is why I expect in future NSE20 to blow off the 6161 all time high when that event triggers.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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