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chiaroscuro
#431 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 11:39:55 AM
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Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Government rules out raising of electricity charges
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/6lydxcz/-/index.html

This is about KPLC not KenGen but it is a reason why I don't buy shares in GoK firms. I expect similar treatment to be given to KenGen.



P/E = 1.25
P/B = 0.16

It's hard to say no to the rights at 6.55; really hard!

But, of course not for immediate returns...
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Ebenyo
#432 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 12:16:39 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
lochaz-index wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@Ebenyo. It is likely that your order was not filled. It's a que. The 6.50 thar traded were ahead of u in the queue. It is s only if the share traded at 6.45 and ur order was at 6.50 that would be abnormal. When the order expires your money is returned to your CDS account

thanks aguy today i have placed another order at 6.85 let me see how it goes.


Now why 6.85?

Si you buy rights at 0.05 and the execute at 6.55? Total will be 6.60

Ama hiyo hesabu ni ngumu?

sikuwa najua hiyo hesabu!


Aih!
Daddy: wachana na maneno ya stocks kwa sasa!
You have a lot to learn....you will lose a lot of money if you're not careful.

Good advice. Heed it.

@chiaroscuro and lochaz thanks for your advice.Life is a learning process.Im learning slowly and will pass the experience to my next of kin who is my daughter.Im buying longterm not speculation.When i will be old enough or die my daughter will inherit the shares.Its good im learning from you thanks!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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wukan
#433 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 12:38:53 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,652
chiaroscuro wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Government rules out raising of electricity charges
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/6lydxcz/-/index.html

This is about KPLC not KenGen but it is a reason why I don't buy shares in GoK firms. I expect similar treatment to be given to KenGen.



P/E = 1.25
P/B = 0.16

It's hard to say no to the rights at 6.55; really hard!

But, of course not for immediate returns...


Why buy kengen with a post rights dividend yield of 3.6% while the market has stocks with dividend yields of 10%
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Ebenyo
#434 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 1:14:13 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
wukan wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Government rules out raising of electricity charges
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/6lydxcz/-/index.html

This is about KPLC not KenGen but it is a reason why I don't buy shares in GoK firms. I expect similar treatment to be given to KenGen.



P/E = 1.25
P/B = 0.16

It's hard to say no to the rights at 6.55; really hard!

But, of course not for immediate returns...


Why buy kengen with a post rights dividend yield of 3.6% while the market has stocks with dividend yields of 10%

@wukan,can you name them pliz!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#435 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 3:02:24 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
Lights off as far as Trading of rights is concerned.
38.17M shares on offer at close of trading who now will be forced to pay 6.55 (KES.250M) for those rights or just walk away with nothing in their pockets as they couldnt even get a buyer willing to pay 5centsSad
@SufficientlyP
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VituVingiSana
#436 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2016 5:28:06 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
In Chile, Solar Power Outgrows the Grid, So They’re Giving it Away

http://fortune.com/2016/...-theyre-giving-it-away/

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Aguytrying
#437 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2016 1:03:10 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
Ebenyo wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@Ebenyo. It is likely that your order was not filled. It's a que. The 6.50 thar traded were ahead of u in the queue. It is s only if the share traded at 6.45 and ur order was at 6.50 that would be abnormal. When the order expires your money is returned to your CDS account

thanks aguy today i have placed another order at 6.85 let me see how it goes.


Now why 6.85?

Si you buy rights at 0.05 and the execute at 6.55? Total will be 6.60

Ama hiyo hesabu ni ngumu?

sikuwa najua hiyo hesabu!


Aih!
Daddy: wachana na maneno ya stocks kwa sasa!
You have a lot to learn....you will lose a lot of money if you're not careful.

Good advice. Heed it.

@chiaroscuro and lochaz thanks for your advice.Life is a learning process.Im learning slowly and will pass the experience to my next of kin who is my daughter.Im buying longterm not speculation.When i will be old enough or die my daughter will inherit the shares.Its good im learning from you thanks!


If u want kengen shares that bad. Just wait between now and December you can't get them at maybe even 4.00
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Ebenyo
#438 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2016 2:04:38 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Aguytrying wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@Ebenyo. It is likely that your order was not filled. It's a que. The 6.50 thar traded were ahead of u in the queue. It is s only if the share traded at 6.45 and ur order was at 6.50 that would be abnormal. When the order expires your money is returned to your CDS account

thanks aguy today i have placed another order at 6.85 let me see how it goes.


Now why 6.85?

Si you buy rights at 0.05 and the execute at 6.55? Total will be 6.60

Ama hiyo hesabu ni ngumu?

sikuwa najua hiyo hesabu!


Aih!
Daddy: wachana na maneno ya stocks kwa sasa!
You have a lot to learn....you will lose a lot of money if you're not careful.

Good advice. Heed it.

@chiaroscuro and lochaz thanks for your advice.Life is a learning process.Im learning slowly and will pass the experience to my next of kin who is my daughter.Im buying longterm not speculation.When i will be old enough or die my daughter will inherit the shares.Its good im learning from you thanks!


If u want kengen shares that bad. Just wait between now and December you can't get them at maybe even 4.00

i really wanted to diversfy my portfolio as 80% of it was in banking.I want to spread in other counters.So im in kengen now and i have exited barclays.if the price will be like that,i will add more. im looking for a few more stocks in different counters.any ideas pliz? i have been thinking about kenyaRe but the price is high.i will like it at 17.00.Also thinking about Total.the current price is right but i dont know why nobody is interested.everybody is in kenol kobil which i dont like for low dividend yield.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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mkate_nusu
#439 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2016 5:00:51 PM
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Joined: 5/30/2016
Posts: 332
Location: Kayole
Aguytrying wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@Ebenyo. It is likely that your order was not filled. It's a que. The 6.50 thar traded were ahead of u in the queue. It is s only if the share traded at 6.45 and ur order was at 6.50 that would be abnormal. When the order expires your money is returned to your CDS account

thanks aguy today i have placed another order at 6.85 let me see how it goes.


Now why 6.85?

Si you buy rights at 0.05 and the execute at 6.55? Total will be 6.60

Ama hiyo hesabu ni ngumu?

sikuwa najua hiyo hesabu!


Aih!
Daddy: wachana na maneno ya stocks kwa sasa!
You have a lot to learn....you will lose a lot of money if you're not careful.

Good advice. Heed it.

@chiaroscuro and lochaz thanks for your advice.Life is a learning process.Im learning slowly and will pass the experience to my next of kin who is my daughter.Im buying longterm not speculation.When i will be old enough or die my daughter will inherit the shares.Its good im learning from you thanks!


If u want kengen shares that bad. Just wait between now and December you can't get them at maybe even 4.00


Between 2 and 3 bob is also possible
KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Ericsson
#440 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2016 6:06:55 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
@Ebenyo
Avoid any counter or company with preference shares
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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