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Othelo wrote:Swenani wrote:Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cheryl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner.  Outing her for what? Cheryl is in the oldest profession.... vuna kile umepanda  Could also be the torch inside JJ's grave has gone off
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Othelo wrote:Swenani wrote:Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cheryl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner. Outing her for what? Cheryl is in the oldest profession.... vuna kile umepanda Wee hapana.She was a chips funga.It was a one night stand .Come to think of it he died a happy man.After a kamsimamo.Very unfortunate that the chair of our sacco is gone Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cherl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner. She innocently outed herself in that conversation with the taxi man. But in all fairness, KTN and those wannabes investigative jonalists should not have used her full name and picture on national TV. In this day and age when your digital presence is everything, this is the lowest this TV station has hit. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cherl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner. She innocently outed herself in that conversation with the taxi man. But in all fairness, KTN and those wannabes investigative jonalists should not have used her full name and picture on national TV. In this day and age when your digital presence is everything, this is the lowest this TV station has hit.  wait a minute...of all the things in the documentary, all you can remember is her name? Not the fact that ALL cctv cameras in Nairobi suddenly stop working... Come on Murchr Who told you that she did not know about this "outing" as you call it? The story as I read it was a bit more interesting. She says she was dropped in town. In fact says that quite a number of times. The question for the two documentaries was not Impunity's famme fatale, but where did the CCTV's disappear to for 1 and half hours. That to me was not shoddy journalism, but a shady story. As for the lady you seem to care sooooo much about, I'm sure right now she's very happy she was outed. Moha and co could actually have saved her life. Since now we know who she was, if we hear she got a cold and died by mistake while swallowing a whale, we will get to dig deeper into this story. Moha just saved her life from whomever killed bwana horny kabetes. Murchr, you didn't find it interesting that Kabetes is tweeting from 6 feet under? Or you just want us to look at the woman? Not the facts as were clearly laid out. Ohhh boy this moha fellow is just plain evil. How come only njumbiree fellas have that viceral feeling about the guy? Why not attack KTN that allowed it to be edited and broadcast in their studios. When I see moha vitriol, I just smile. Someone is doing their job right as a journalist in this country. I'm 100% sure that KTN talks to its lawyers before airing such stuff. Probably poor lawyers but lawyers anyway. I don't know why, but there is a specific reason her face was shown everywhere. If you believe it was malice, that's your perogative....I just don't believe that a whole station can hold malice.....unless, they know something that we don't know but are only hinting at, without using too many words. ohhh by the way, I'm totally against outing....But there's more to this story than meets the eye. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cherl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner. She innocently outed herself in that conversation with the taxi man. But in all fairness, KTN and those wannabes investigative jonalists should not have used her full name and picture on national TV. In this day and age when your digital presence is everything, this is the lowest this TV station has hit. wait a minute...of all the things in the documentary, all you can remember is her name? Not the fact that ALL cctv cameras in Nairobi suddenly stop working... Come on Murchr Who told you that she did not know about this "outing" as you call it? The story as I read it was a bit more interesting. She says she was dropped in town. In fact says that quite a number of times. The question for the two documentaries was not Impunity's famme fatale, but where did the CCTV's disappear to for 1 and half hours. That to me was not shoddy journalism, but a shady story. As for the lady you seem to care sooooo much about, I'm sure right now she's very happy she was outed. Moha and co could actually have saved her life. Since now we know who she was, if we hear she got a cold and died by mistake while swallowing a whale, we will get to dig deeper into this story. Moha just saved her life from whomever killed bwana horny kabetes. Murchr, you didn't find it interesting that Kabetes is tweeting from 6 feet under? Or you just want us to look at the woman? Not the facts as were clearly laid out. Ohhh boy this moha fellow is just plain evil. How come only njumbiree fellas have that viceral feeling about the guy? Why not attack KTN that allowed it to be edited and broadcast in their studios. When I see moha vitriol, I just smile. Someone is doing their job right as a journalist in this country. I have not seen any of the tweets he sent from 6ft unless you paste them. There's no saving that Moha did to this woman, and if he was really out to save her, he should have done the same to the taxi guy, both met JJ on his last day. The CCTV images later on are not in the public domain now - or Moha doesn't have them, BUT it is possible they are out there being used by the cops. Dont you find their theory rather baffling, on the day he died, these jonalists believe that there was so much traffic such that it was impossible for JJ to make it to ngong road. So they believe he was shot elsewhere and his car placed on the scene of crime. They later on bring on a witness who believes that he heard a loud sound at around the same spot of death....too many inconsistencies but good enough to entertain your ilk. On to the next story. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:
I have not seen any of the tweets he sent from 6ft unless you paste them.
There's no saving that Moha did to this woman, and if he was really out to save her, he should have done the same to the taxi guy, both men JJ on his last day.
The CCTV images later on are not in the public domain now - or Moha doesn't have them, BUT it is possible they are out there being used by the cops.
Dont you find their theory rather baffling, on the day he died, these jonalists believe that there was so much traffic such that it was impossible for JJ to make it to ngong road. So they believe he was shot elsewhere and his car placed on the scene of crime. They later on bring on a witness who believes that he heard a loud sound at around the same spot of death....too many inconsistencies but good enough to entertain your ilk. On to the next story.
Oh come on Murchr, if you say you watched the documentaries, they said it twice in the program. They said categorically that his tweets were being deleted after he died. Surely you don't think that a whole station can make such a claim without evidence, do you? Mimi sina any issues with anyone having their opinion. I also have mine. Mine was just to say how interesting that those that attack Moha, forget to attack, KTN, the editors, the news crew, the photographers et al. I'm sure they too are not members of al shabaab as Moha is. Avoid changing topics all the time. Entertaining it is. Just as entertaining as carrying a dead body in a car to the police station. Now that is entertaining. Unless you were there, you do not know what happened. So just like me, you are also being fed information or "entertained". So other than outing "this woman", as you call her with so much care, what else was too evil to imagine. If you may. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:
I have not seen any of the tweets he sent from 6ft unless you paste them.
There's no saving that Moha did to this woman, and if he was really out to save her, he should have done the same to the taxi guy, both men JJ on his last day.
The CCTV images later on are not in the public domain now - or Moha doesn't have them, BUT it is possible they are out there being used by the cops.
Dont you find their theory rather baffling, on the day he died, these jonalists believe that there was so much traffic such that it was impossible for JJ to make it to ngong road. So they believe he was shot elsewhere and his car placed on the scene of crime. They later on bring on a witness who believes that he heard a loud sound at around the same spot of death....too many inconsistencies but good enough to entertain your ilk. On to the next story.
Oh come on Murchr, if you say you watched the documentaries, they said it twice in the program. They said categorically that his tweets were being deleted after he died. Surely you don't think that a whole station can make such a claim without evidence, do you? Do you seriously believe I trust what these dudes say?Mimi sina any issues with anyone having their opinion. I also have mine. Mine was just to say how interesting that those that attack Moha, forget to attack, KTN, the editors, the news crew, the photographers et al. I'm sure they too are not members of al shabaab as Moha is. I guess you didnt see I wrote KTN and the wannabe inv jonalists
Avoid changing topics all the time. Entertaining it is. Just as entertaining as carrying a dead body in a car to the police station. Now that is entertaining. Unless you were there, you do not know what happened. So just like me, you are also being fed information or "entertained". So other than outing "this woman", as you call her with so much care, what else was too evil to imagine. If you may. What you believe is up to you. But this one was as shady as it could get. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:
I have not seen any of the tweets he sent from 6ft unless you paste them.
There's no saving that Moha did to this woman, and if he was really out to save her, he should have done the same to the taxi guy, both men JJ on his last day.
The CCTV images later on are not in the public domain now - or Moha doesn't have them, BUT it is possible they are out there being used by the cops.
Dont you find their theory rather baffling, on the day he died, these jonalists believe that there was so much traffic such that it was impossible for JJ to make it to ngong road. So they believe he was shot elsewhere and his car placed on the scene of crime. They later on bring on a witness who believes that he heard a loud sound at around the same spot of death....too many inconsistencies but good enough to entertain your ilk. On to the next story.
Oh come on Murchr, if you say you watched the documentaries, they said it twice in the program. They said categorically that his tweets were being deleted after he died. Surely you don't think that a whole station can make such a claim without evidence, do you? Do you seriously believe I trust what these dudes say?Mimi sina any issues with anyone having their opinion. I also have mine. Mine was just to say how interesting that those that attack Moha, forget to attack, KTN, the editors, the news crew, the photographers et al. I'm sure they too are not members of al shabaab as Moha is. I guess you didnt see I wrote KTN and the wannabe inv jonalists
Avoid changing topics all the time. Entertaining it is. Just as entertaining as carrying a dead body in a car to the police station. Now that is entertaining. Unless you were there, you do not know what happened. So just like me, you are also being fed information or "entertained". So other than outing "this woman", as you call her with so much care, what else was too evil to imagine. If you may. What you believe is up to you. But this one was as shady as it could get. We shall agree to disagree on this one. I did wonder why they were naming her, but something got me thinking that even if moha is alshabaab, he's not that stupid. In your view they were evil to out her. In my view, they could probably have saved a girl's life. I'll be watching the next installments. If only to get another view that is not directed from the kosher. Different opinions are good for the soul. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:
I have not seen any of the tweets he sent from 6ft unless you paste them.
There's no saving that Moha did to this woman, and if he was really out to save her, he should have done the same to the taxi guy, both men JJ on his last day.
The CCTV images later on are not in the public domain now - or Moha doesn't have them, BUT it is possible they are out there being used by the cops.
Dont you find their theory rather baffling, on the day he died, these jonalists believe that there was so much traffic such that it was impossible for JJ to make it to ngong road. So they believe he was shot elsewhere and his car placed on the scene of crime. They later on bring on a witness who believes that he heard a loud sound at around the same spot of death....too many inconsistencies but good enough to entertain your ilk. On to the next story.
Oh come on Murchr, if you say you watched the documentaries, they said it twice in the program. They said categorically that his tweets were being deleted after he died. Surely you don't think that a whole station can make such a claim without evidence, do you? Do you seriously believe I trust what these dudes say?Mimi sina any issues with anyone having their opinion. I also have mine. Mine was just to say how interesting that those that attack Moha, forget to attack, KTN, the editors, the news crew, the photographers et al. I'm sure they too are not members of al shabaab as Moha is. I guess you didnt see I wrote KTN and the wannabe inv jonalists
Avoid changing topics all the time. Entertaining it is. Just as entertaining as carrying a dead body in a car to the police station. Now that is entertaining. Unless you were there, you do not know what happened. So just like me, you are also being fed information or "entertained". So other than outing "this woman", as you call her with so much care, what else was too evil to imagine. If you may. What you believe is up to you. But this one was as shady as it could get. We shall agree to disagree on this one. I did wonder why they were naming her, but something got me thinking that even if moha is alshabaab, he's not that stupid. In your view they were evil to out her. In my view, they could probably have saved a girl's life. I'll be watching the next installments. If only to get another view that is not directed from the kosher. Different opinions are good for the soul. Its simple, Moha being a Islamist figures that this woman is an ibilis and so shaming and exposing her is his way of revenge. He is not helping her in anyway "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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If I were her, I would sue for Kshs 5 billion for defamation. If you can't directly connect her to the murder, then her details should not be revealed to the public. There is nothing wrong with dating anyone in this world. Is she a suspect? From that stupid jicho pevu, she had met the girl once. Moha hakuna investigation amefanya. i.am.back!!!!
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Nation, the government newspaper thinks JJ was killed somewhere else and his body dumped in his car along southern bypass RinkQuote:After interviewing witnesses, visiting the site and reviewing the autopsy report, it seems there is a possibility that the controversial businessman was not killed in his car at all; that he may have been killed elsewhere, his body placed in his car and the vehicle pushed to the side of the road to create the perfect crime scene.
His bullet wounds were also inconsistent with claims that the murder victim was shot while sitting in the driver’s seat. Quote:Police reports said an officer stationed at a nearby construction site was approached by two men who told him they had seen a stalled vehicle.
The guards at the two construction sites in the area told the Nation there was no police officer at their sites that night. Quote:If Juma was abducted and then shot, why would his attackers bandage his wounds? If they intended to kill him, why try to stop the bleeding? Did they have a change of mind?
The bandages and their significance appear to be some of the clues in the investigation that homicide detectives are unable to explain. Quote:He said the tow team arrived at the scene a few minutes past 10pm but were not allowed near the vehicle for over an hour.
“The engine was off when I went inside the car. There was very little blood on the driver’s seat while there was some blood on the passenger side. The blood appeared smeared,” recalled the attendant, only identified as Joshua. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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murchr wrote:Jump-steady wrote:This Moha chap has been trying so hard to get the attention of Raila. His hope being to be allowed into Raila's clique of blue eyed boys who never have to contest for party nominations. The clique that includes James Orengo and Anyang Nyong went on to win their respective seats despite protest from voters. But Cherl needs to sue moha for outing her in this very unprofessional manner. She innocently outed herself in that conversation with the taxi man. But in all fairness, KTN and those wannabes investigative jonalists should not have used her full name and picture on national TV. In this day and age when your digital presence is everything, this is the lowest this TV station has hit. THis girl is young and naive. She revealed too much to somebody she had met only once. Lord, thank you!
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Euge wrote:http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Minister-and-MP-shared-secret-house-with-Juma/-/1056/3217542/-/7mp7l5z/-/index.html Former minister, current minister, mp, prominent nairobi lawyer.... who are these guys ? Seems JJ was using one of the oldest tricks in the book. Entice guys with not just money but a good time with young gals. Young cheryl is an escort. That's the kind word nowadays for the oldest profession.
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FRM2011 wrote:Euge wrote:http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Minister-and-MP-shared-secret-house-with-Juma/-/1056/3217542/-/7mp7l5z/-/index.html Former minister, current minister, mp, prominent nairobi lawyer.... who are these guys ? Seems JJ was using one of the oldest tricks in the book. Entice guys with not just money but a good time with young gals. Young cheryl is an escort. That's the kind word nowadays for the oldest profession. A profession perfected by A London Call Girl: "A petite, American-born blonde with a PhD from Sheffield University in informatics, epidemiology and forensic science, and works at the Bristol Initiative for Research for Child Health, researching the effects of exposure to pesticides on foetuses and infants"[/url]. Whose first two books were UK top 10 best-sellers in the nonfiction hardback and nonfiction paperback lists.. Dr. Magnanti worked for 14 months as a £300-an-hour pr0st1tute called Taro for a London escort agency from 2003, after submitting her PhD thesis.
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Euge wrote:http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Minister-and-MP-shared-secret-house-with-Juma/-/1056/3217542/-/7mp7l5z/-/index.html In his last 7 days he entertained 4 different women at the apartment. The last was mpesad 60k. And he would always be home for dinner with family at karen at 9pm. Poor wife. The things men do. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:Nation, the government newspaper thinks JJ was killed somewhere else and his body dumped in his car along southern bypass RinkQuote:After interviewing witnesses, visiting the site and reviewing the autopsy report, it seems there is a possibility that the controversial businessman was not killed in his car at all; that he may have been killed elsewhere, his body placed in his car and the vehicle pushed to the side of the road to create the perfect crime scene.
His bullet wounds were also inconsistent with claims that the murder victim was shot while sitting in the driver’s seat. Quote:Police reports said an officer stationed at a nearby construction site was approached by two men who told him they had seen a stalled vehicle.
The guards at the two construction sites in the area told the Nation there was no police officer at their sites that night. Quote:If Juma was abducted and then shot, why would his attackers bandage his wounds? If they intended to kill him, why try to stop the bleeding? Did they have a change of mind?
The bandages and their significance appear to be some of the clues in the investigation that homicide detectives are unable to explain. Quote:He said the tow team arrived at the scene a few minutes past 10pm but were not allowed near the vehicle for over an hour.
“The engine was off when I went inside the car. There was very little blood on the driver’s seat while there was some blood on the passenger side. The blood appeared smeared,” recalled the attendant, only identified as Joshua. Those articles are so contradictory in themselves.Apparently its also interesting to note the are written by one Nyambega Gisesa. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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keraka wrote:Swenani wrote:Nation, the government newspaper thinks JJ was killed somewhere else and his body dumped in his car along southern bypass RinkQuote:After interviewing witnesses, visiting the site and reviewing the autopsy report, it seems there is a possibility that the controversial businessman was not killed in his car at all; that he may have been killed elsewhere, his body placed in his car and the vehicle pushed to the side of the road to create the perfect crime scene.
His bullet wounds were also inconsistent with claims that the murder victim was shot while sitting in the driver’s seat. Quote:Police reports said an officer stationed at a nearby construction site was approached by two men who told him they had seen a stalled vehicle.
The guards at the two construction sites in the area told the Nation there was no police officer at their sites that night. Quote:If Juma was abducted and then shot, why would his attackers bandage his wounds? If they intended to kill him, why try to stop the bleeding? Did they have a change of mind?
The bandages and their significance appear to be some of the clues in the investigation that homicide detectives are unable to explain. Quote:He said the tow team arrived at the scene a few minutes past 10pm but were not allowed near the vehicle for over an hour.
“The engine was off when I went inside the car. There was very little blood on the driver’s seat while there was some blood on the passenger side. The blood appeared smeared,” recalled the attendant, only identified as Joshua. Those articles are so contradictory in themselves. Apparently its also interesting to note the are written by one Nyambega Gisesa. Why, what about 
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