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#31 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:33:06 PM
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@danwoods I thought farmers prefer Ayrshire because of milk quality.

Some farmers in the rift have been pushing for higher prices per ltr for the thicker milk

Friesian si Holstein?
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#32 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:02:18 PM
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Dawnwoods wrote:
@munyaoTrader @Gathige @Obi 1 kanobi.. I delighted you put words into action.. Good for you!! I just am not sure why you went for the Aryshire Breed.. Why not Holstein..juu nilidhani hii yote ni directly related to ROI and Profit Profit!!
First of all… I am assuming you know the difference between Friesiens and Holsteins.. Vile vile.. I am hoping you can also tell the difference between an Aryshire and a Red and White Holstein.
The idea here is to have an animal that will convert feed into milk instead of hoarding. Please let me explain this small point.. The more you feed Aryshires.. they share that feed with you.. meaning, they tend to be a little more stocky..aka Kunona.. Holsteins over the years have been bred to convert the feed into prolific milk production through many years of precision breeding. As such, The Holstein tends to stay lean.. skinny depending on what term you want to use.
@mawinder indicated Ayshire producing 20liters a day…. Hio ni kweli kabisa from my experience… lakini je.. huyu Holstein ata toa 40l/day. Same feed, same labor but better results. Many farmers and I mean many farmers are getting this level of production.
Huyu Patrick Ruto… assuming he knows what he is doing… ask him kwanza hata before you go with him to see any Cows akuelezee LDT.. Linear Descriptive Traits ya Ngombe.. na maana yake..
Stature, Rump Width, Strength, Rear Legs side view, Body depth,Rear legs rear View,Dairy form,Foot Angle, Rump Angle,Locomotion,Fore Udder attachment, Front teat placement,Rear Udder Height, Front teat length, Rear udder width, rear teat length,Suspensory ligament or Udder cleft,Rear teat placement, Udder depth and Body condition.
Ndio hio.. and if you take time to understand the essence of each and every one of them…hapo pap!! Wewe expert! And you will never need anybody to help you buy Cows as you will know mara moja.
Ya mwisho.. Dr Wachira 722-509-906 Longonot Place Kijabe Street will help you pro-bono..

@danwoodsApplause Applause Applause , am awed by your in-depth knowledge in this field and humbled by your willingness to share freely.
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#33 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:31:38 PM
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@Laughing out loudly…lets talk about watu wa rift valley… you know.. they are all like other Kenyans.. they hear something and they are on it… I remember the craze about rearing quails.. So some drunk says he bought a different breed juu ya milk content… next day the whole Village is buying the same breed. Hii inaitwa financial hype of those who want to strike it rich and quick. So what is the point? The point is Kenyans in general drink milk more than they eat milk..So weka ngombe wa maziwa wachana na Cheese. Milk solids are only good for Western nations where Cheese is a hot commodity. Yes cheese is still used in 254 but not that much.
Point number 2… even if I lost the argument about butterfat content… Ayrshires would still be the wrong Breed because Jerseys have more Solid/butterfat contents in milk than Ayrshires.. and you know Jerseys are smaller in size probably 40% less in body mass than Ayrshires so eats less. Lets add a little more detail on the Jersey.. Since they have a more solid Hoof than Ayrshires, they last longer when it comes to longevity and also particularly they don’t have to support that immense Ayrshire weight.
Ayrshire is only good for Hobby Farmers.. lakini kama premise yako ni Pesa… this my friend is the wrong breed.
Hi Holstein is very different from Friesian. This is a topic of another day…
Twende back to how this guy has constructed the Shed.. is it @Obi 1 kanoba or @ MunyauTrader… Aki with all due respect… Cows were never meant to walk on Stones or Concrete.. Sasa hii Mawe.. uko na Hoof Trimmer? Uko na Copper Sulfate footbath? je.. ushawahi sikio ugonjwa wa Digital Dermatitis?
Well tusonge mbele.. why in the world did you put Murram and saw dust?? Why Boss why? Murram is good for roads because it is Compact and withstands rain.. water.. So.. essentially mkojo..maji..mvua mavi.. when discharged it will stay right there.. and when the Cow lays down for a rest.. ndio hio Mastitis.. So what to do? Hapo Mtito Andei kuna a lot of sand.. Sand is highly permeable… it doesn’t hold any water.. Standing water is your enemy. Enuff said.
Ya mwisho… When buying other Cows infuture.. hata kaa sio Pure Pedigree.. Most in 254 have records of Sire, Dam, Maternal and Paternal sides and check if any was ever Dx with BLAD.. Bovine Leukocyte Adhesion Deficiency.. na hata hii ni topic ya another siku..
By the way climatically… what is the elevation of mtito.. Ngong and Njabini??? In other words… why don’t we plant potatoes in mtito?? Bells ringing? Yes? Yeah?what?
Sorry this is too much.. I guess infuture I will write stuff like this when sober.
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#34 Posted : Monday, May 23, 2016 8:57:02 AM
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@Danwoods

The reason why I like the info from @Munyaotrader and @Gathige is because they are actually rearing the animals and getting 20 litres per cow.

If you are actually keeping Holstein and getting 40 litres, then please confirm it here and give us details. We will listen and learn.

Have you actually built a better shed, please tell us what you used and what it cost so we can learn and improve.

My point is, this thread is great coz we are learning from people who are actually doing the trade every day.

Your stats are great but are they being practically done?
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Dawnwoods
#35 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2016 1:16:30 AM
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@Danwoods

The reason why I like the info from @Munyaotrader and @Gathige is because they are actually rearing the animals and getting 20 litres per cow.

If you are actually keeping Holstein and getting 40 litres, then please confirm it here and give us details. We will listen and learn.

Have you actually built a better shed, please tell us what you used and what it cost so we can learn and improve.

My point is, this thread is great coz we are learning from people who are actually doing the trade every day.

Your stats are great but are they being practically done?



@Obi kanobi..

Yes practically being done sasa hivi.. infact if i knew where you are.. i would direct you sasa hivi..and since being done all over.. i bet there is one, two or three near you. remember.. i already placed a name and a pro-bono contact earlier..
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#36 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 6:51:57 PM
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Very interesting, how many dairy cows can be done comfortably on one acre?
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#37 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:22:13 PM
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Holsteins make up 90% of the US
dairy herd, which number around 9
million cattle.
https://www.quora.com/Wh...acts-about-holstein-cows
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:38:46 PM
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[quote=jerry]Holsteins make up 90% of the US
dairy herd, which number around 9
million cattle.
https://www.quora.com/Wh...cts-about-holstein-cows[/quote]

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#39 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 11:36:01 AM
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Great info here for anyone who intends to start Dairy farming.
Always wanted to start,now i will dip in there.
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#40 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 11:49:29 AM
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There are cows which produce 3 litres in a day,despite the stage of calving.Mostly reared by farmers practicing subsistence farming.

Is it to possible to improve the production of those animals?If possible how?
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