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Treasury Bills and Bonds
snipermnoma
#121 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:05:12 PM
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So 80B was the bids received for 30B offered. Where will the excess money be channeled to? Stocks?

https://www.centralbank....d-results/lates-resultts
Spikes
#122 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:12:10 PM
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[quote=snipermnoma]So 80B was the bids received for 30B offered. Where will the excess money be channeled to? Stocks?

https://www.centralbank....-results/lates-resultts[/quote]


It gives us hope. Some investors current position is reading negative. At least a rally will rescue precarious positions.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#123 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:11:21 AM
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Spikes wrote:
[quote=snipermnoma]So 80B was the bids received for 30B offered. Where will the excess money be channeled to? Stocks?

https://www.centralbank....-results/lates-resultts[/quote]


It gives us hope. Some investors current position is reading negative. At least a rally will rescue precarious positions.


Been doing bonds for a while now...that money has rarely gone to stocks..rem you only pay for bonds on allocation and it's not like it's a refund...there will be a bit of uptick on the secondary bonds market as those who missed the 2 year and IFB go in to salvage their positions.
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Bree
#124 Posted : Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:23:08 PM
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Just opened my CBK CDSC account, Wish to start trading next week for 182 T-bills. Best bet for a newbie like me is to bid for non competitive - have about 1M.
However, am asking for some tips & tricks for competitive bidding. If am to bid next week, what's the best rate % to bid? Been following bid results and noticed over 80% of investors go for competitive bids even with apparent subscription.

Checked today's results for last week, 182 day closed at 10.137%.

Thanks for your help.
maka
#125 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:39:01 PM
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Wow massive IFB10 buys by JP Morgan am told....Bond market went ballistic today...
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maka
#126 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 1:46:04 PM
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Stanchart is another bank apparently you cant settle for a bond trading in the secondary market as a retail client.
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Hobitke
#127 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2016 1:55:33 PM
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Bree wrote:
Just opened my CBK CDSC account, Wish to start trading next week for 182 T-bills. Best bet for a newbie like me is to bid for non competitive - have about 1M.
However, am asking for some tips & tricks for competitive bidding. If am to bid next week, what's the best rate % to bid? Been following bid results and noticed over 80% of investors go for competitive bids even with apparent subscription.

Checked today's results for last week, 182 day closed at 10.137%.

Thanks for your help.



@Bree, how did this go?
maka
#128 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:12:43 AM
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This month the Central Bank of Kenya offered 2 and 15 year Treasury Bonds for a total amount of up to Kshs 30 Billion. The total number of bids received was 777 amounting to Kshs 34.70 Billion and 632 amounting to Kshs 16.11 Billion for the 2 year and 15 year bonds respectively. The Weighted average rate for successful bids was 11.508% for the 2-year Bond and 14.335% for the 15-year Bond.

https://www.centralbank....d-results/lates-resultts
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The Great
#129 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:29:40 AM
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@Maka round this hakuna kulala.
"Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."
instinct
#130 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:18:54 PM
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The Great wrote:
@Maka round this hakuna kulala.


any hope for another infrastructure bond this year?
Impunity
#131 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:47:40 PM
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maka wrote:
This month the Central Bank of Kenya offered 2 and 15 year Treasury Bonds for a total amount of up to Kshs 30 Billion. The total number of bids received was 777 amounting to Kshs 34.70 Billion and 632 amounting to Kshs 16.11 Billion for the 2 year and 15 year bonds respectively. The Weighted average rate for successful bids was 11.508% for the 2-year Bond and 14.335% for the 15-year Bond.

https://www.centralbank....-results/lates-resultts



The offer on the 2-year paper was meager (11%)...cant lock my money in for 2 year when Unit trust are giving figures in the region of 14%.


Portfolio: Sold
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maka
#132 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:25:56 PM
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instinct wrote:
The Great wrote:
@Maka round this hakuna kulala.


any hope for another infrastructure bond this year?


We might see 1 more before the end of the year...
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mlennyma
#133 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:28:05 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
This month the Central Bank of Kenya offered 2 and 15 year Treasury Bonds for a total amount of up to Kshs 30 Billion. The total number of bids received was 777 amounting to Kshs 34.70 Billion and 632 amounting to Kshs 16.11 Billion for the 2 year and 15 year bonds respectively. The Weighted average rate for successful bids was 11.508% for the 2-year Bond and 14.335% for the 15-year Bond.

https://www.centralbank....-results/lates-resultts



The offer on the 2-year paper was meager (11%)...cant lock my money in for 2 year when Unit trust are giving figures in the region of 14%.



and centum has given over 20% in one weeksmile
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Impunity
#134 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 12:25:36 PM
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maka wrote:
instinct wrote:
The Great wrote:
@Maka round this hakuna kulala.


any hope for another infrastructure bond this year?


We might see 1 more before the end of the year...


Let them give something tangible for IFR, kitu kama 15%.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#135 Posted : Tuesday, August 09, 2016 12:18:41 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
instinct wrote:
The Great wrote:
@Maka round this hakuna kulala.


any hope for another infrastructure bond this year?


We might see 1 more before the end of the year...


Let them give something tangible for IFR, kitu kama 15%.


@maka, do we expect any IFR in the near horizon?
d'oh!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

murchr
#136 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:34:59 AM
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This is the thread to watch now.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka
#137 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:14:34 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
instinct wrote:
The Great wrote:
@Maka round this hakuna kulala.


any hope for another infrastructure bond this year?


We might see 1 more before the end of the year...


Let them give something tangible for IFR, kitu kama 15%.


@maka, do we expect any IFR in the near horizon?
d'oh!


With the new issuance calendar in place maybe not...if am not wrong in Sept it will be a 2 year and a 15 year...October is still open.

The 10 year just issued wasnt bad after WHT you take home net 13.50%,not bad at all...


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maka
#138 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:54:24 AM
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Dear All,

I attended a Bond Market Stakeholders Meeting at the Central Bank chaired by the Deputy Governor yesterday afternoon.

Key highlights were as follows:

Monthly Update

· Oversubscriptions for Treasury Bill issues was noted
· Treasury Bill rates increased in August
· There has been a decline in interest rates post-assent of the Banking (Amendment) Act by the President on 24th August 2016
· During the last Treasury Bond Auction, CBK accepted Kshs 18.3 bn out of Kshs 26.3 bn received (Kshs 25 bn was offered) due to aggressive bidding
· There was improvement (4.7%) in secondary bond market turnover in August (Kshs 18.64 bn vs 17.8 bn in July)
· Yield curve shifted upwards at the short end
· Outstanding debt is Kshs 1,771.23 bn in the following proportions: T-Bills (33.8%): T-Bonds (66.2%). The desired threshold is 30:70 (TBills/TBonds)
· Average maturity of Government Securities is 4.3 years and 7 years for Bonds only
· Cumulative borrowing for the fiscal year is Kshs 31.33 bn against annual cumulative target of Kshs 225.3 bn, so the new borrowing requirement is Kshs 193.97 bn

· The DG emphasized that CBK remains focused on ensuring predictability, stability and progress in the bond market and requested the input of participants regarding an indicative (theoretical) yield curve and share with the CBK team before the next meeting

Bond Proposal

· The draft quarterly debt issuance calendar has been withdrawn (please see my meeting notes dated 3rd August, which cited lack of consultation prior to circulation)
· The bond proposal for September is as follows:
o 5-year & 20-year bond
o Issue date: 20th September 2016
o Settlement date: 26th September
o Offer amount: Kshs 25 bn (Green Shoe Option of Kshs 10 bn)
o Coupon: CBK to determine

Market Developments
· There are currently 2 working committees on Capital Markets and Government Debt Management working on the following issues:
1. M-AKIBA
2. Treasury Mobile Direct (TMD)
3. Internet Banking
4. Debt Issuance Calendar
5. OTC Market
6. Short-selling (NB: not for currencies, in view of recent experiences with Nigeria, South Africa and Zambia)
· Target timelines for implementation of these initiatives is June 2017, after which Primary Dealership will be addressed
· The status of the Treasury Single account will be addressed at the next meeting, during which the Director of Banking at CBK will be in attendance to shed more light.

AOB
· With regard to the operationalization of the Banking (Amendment)Act 2015, the DG stated that it was not the responsibility of the CBK to operationalize the law so nobody should expect the CBK to issue the guidelines.
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Angelica _ann
#139 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:06:05 AM
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Erokamano @maka, i want to join the bond bandwagon after learning. Patiently waiting for M-Akiba. smile
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Liv
#140 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:41:51 AM
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maka wrote:
Dear All,

I attended a Bond Market Stakeholders Meeting at the Central Bank chaired by the Deputy Governor yesterday afternoon.

Key highlights were as follows:

Monthly Update

· Oversubscriptions for Treasury Bill issues was noted
· Treasury Bill rates increased in August
· There has been a decline in interest rates post-assent of the Banking (Amendment) Act by the President on 24th August 2016
· During the last Treasury Bond Auction, CBK accepted Kshs 18.3 bn out of Kshs 26.3 bn received (Kshs 25 bn was offered) due to aggressive bidding
· There was improvement (4.7%) in secondary bond market turnover in August (Kshs 18.64 bn vs 17.8 bn in July)
· Yield curve shifted upwards at the short end
· Outstanding debt is Kshs 1,771.23 bn in the following proportions: T-Bills (33.8%): T-Bonds (66.2%). The desired threshold is 30:70 (TBills/TBonds)
· Average maturity of Government Securities is 4.3 years and 7 years for Bonds only
· Cumulative borrowing for the fiscal year is Kshs 31.33 bn against annual cumulative target of Kshs 225.3 bn, so the new borrowing requirement is Kshs 193.97 bn

· The DG emphasized that CBK remains focused on ensuring predictability, stability and progress in the bond market and requested the input of participants regarding an indicative (theoretical) yield curve and share with the CBK team before the next meeting

Bond Proposal

· The draft quarterly debt issuance calendar has been withdrawn (please see my meeting notes dated 3rd August, which cited lack of consultation prior to circulation)
· The bond proposal for September is as follows:
o 5-year & 20-year bond
o Issue date: 20th September 2016
o Settlement date: 26th September
o Offer amount: Kshs 25 bn (Green Shoe Option of Kshs 10 bn)
o Coupon: CBK to determine

Market Developments
· There are currently 2 working committees on Capital Markets and Government Debt Management working on the following issues:
1. M-AKIBA
2. Treasury Mobile Direct (TMD)
3. Internet Banking
4. Debt Issuance Calendar
5. OTC Market
6. Short-selling (NB: not for currencies, in view of recent experiences with Nigeria, South Africa and Zambia)
· Target timelines for implementation of these initiatives is June 2017, after which Primary Dealership will be addressed
· The status of the Treasury Single account will be addressed at the next meeting, during which the Director of Banking at CBK will be in attendance to shed more light.

AOB
· With regard to the operationalization of the Banking (Amendment)Act 2015, the DG stated that it was not the responsibility of the CBK to operationalize the law so nobody should expect the CBK to issue the guidelines.



@Maka,
Good job.... Thanks for the update.

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